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Has That Always Been There? · FiM Short Story ·
Organised by RogerDodger
Word limit 2000–8000
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#101 · 1
· · >>CoffeeMinion
Oh, sidebar. I've been done with my slate for a while now, and I'm gonna start being that guy and pestering people to read the stories that haven't gotten a great deal of love just yet (for which I blame Froggy! and its wicked author, whom I can only assume was either Lucifer himself, or Oroboro).

The Eye That Floats Unblinking in Sunset Shimmer's Kitchen has only two reviews thus far, and Walk With Me, Twilight Sparkle only three (although I'll be bumping Eye up to three in a little bit; we read it together in the chat, and fun was had by all). So Be Prepared to Precede Me, What You Wish For, and Friendship 101 only have four unique reviewers each.

There are a couple days left in the prelims, so it's not like it's an immediately pressing concern, but time iiiiis kinda winding down. It'd be nice to see all the entries get a turn before the finals roll around.
#102 · 1
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>>Posh
Does Eye seriously...?

Guys. Go read/review it. It's gold. I'm not even kidding.
#103 ·
· · >>BlazzingInferno >>RogerDodger
I have a problem. My slate has five stories on it that I haven't read, and I don't know if I'll have time to read them or not before the cut. I have two abstentions and no way to remove the other five stories from my slate.

The reason for this is that I wanted to rank all of the stories I've read and reviewed, which I selected randomly, so I put those stories into the mix until I had pulled all of the stories from the pool. I thought I would be able to abstain after-the-fact like we used to be able to do, but I can't. In retrospect this is probably because the shuffling of the stories is done in order to ensure an even mix, and I'm an idiot for not reading and reviewing those stories first before I started selecting random ones. I am sorry for this thing. :facehoof:

I'll try to read those stories, of course, but honestly I have a party to prepare for tomorrow and the next day is the party itself. This is a potential burden for me. It may be a burden of my own making, because maybe I was doing something I wasn't supposed to do without realizing it, but I don't want to misrank stories because of it. Is there anything I can do?

Currently, the bottom five stories on my slate are the unread stories.

EDIT: I also can't access Discord at the moment because of, well, my blog explains. Can somepony ask Roger?
#104 · 1
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>>Trick_Question
I send Roger a fimfic PM with a link to your comment. I'm not sure what the best way to contact him is
#105 · 2
· · >>Trick_Question >>CoffeeMinion
>>Trick_Question
If you move all the unread stories into the unread section by abstaining and then unabstaining them they won't affect the rest of your ballot.

But, yeah, I'm not sure why you'd bother using a sequence generator to choose what to read when the site already does that for you?
#106 ·
· · >>RogerDodger
>>RogerDodger
It's for convenience. Since the stories you're given are not provided as a chunk in numerical order, you have to go back and forth between two tabs (or three pages on the same tab) in order to read through them. If the stories are consecutive (e.g. starting at 17 and moving forward until you reach 16), then you can use the arrows at the bottom of each story to move on to the next one.

I'm not sure what else those arrows would be for if not to navigate through the fics in a simple way.
#107 · 1
· · >>CoffeeMinion >>BlazzingInferno
I think my reviews aren't helping anypony much this time, so I'm probably done.
#108 ·
· · >>RogerDodger >>Trick_Question
>>RogerDodger
Actually, it could be nice to have a built-in way of randomly suggesting when to do a self-review. The way I'm doing it is this time is just reviewing my slate, and then using Random.org to essentially roll a die to tell me if I should hit "add another" and read/review it, or if it's time to do my own.

>>Trick_Question
Nonsense! I can't confirm if you've reviewed mine yet or not, but either you gave me useful feedback, or the feedback you've given others seems consistent with what I might hope to receive.
#109 · 1
· · >>Posh
>>Trick_Question
Double nonsense! Your feedback is valuable, doubly so if it runs counter to what everyone else says. That's why we workshop, and that's how we all become better writers :heart:
#110 · 3
· · >>Trick_Question
>>Trick_Question
That's what tabs are for though.

If using one tab is really necessary, you can click the link from your ballot, then hit back to return to it.

The Prev/Next links are a legacy thing I guess. I probably should remove them.

>>CoffeeMinion
I can't really think of a way to fit that into the form without it being really confusing for new people. Maybe someday I will.
#111 · 2
· · >>Syeekoh
>>BlazzingInferno Triple nonsense!

I don't know what we're talking about. I just want to be included.
#112 · 1
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>>Posh
The nonsense has been tripled!
#113 ·
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>>CoffeeMinion
I'm sorry. I'm out.

I don't have the emotional fortitude to do this anymore, and it's just as well because I have party prep to handle.

I've already determined how to fix my fic up. I think it's pretty flawed, mostly due to me finishing it at the last minute when I was extremely tired. I dunno if I'll bother with a retro or not.
#114 · 2
· · >>Morning Sun
>>RogerDodger
I realize based on uphooves nopony cares but me, but I need to respond to this.

Using multiple tabs and going back-and-forth is inconvenient for me, especially on a mobile phone. Maybe it isn't for you, but it's very annoying for me. Even on my triple-monitor desktop machine I usually have a large number of tabs open at any given time, I have issues with opening multiple Chrome instances, and adding a dozen more tabs to the pool often makes a mess. Plus, I have to keep closing out tabs to move on, when all I want to do is read story after story without distraction. Going back and forth is also distracting.

On desktop I usually reserve three tabs: one on discussion, one on the gallery (for reference on word length so I know what to expect, since this is not given in the story thread), and one on the current story I'm reading. If I can manage to read all the stories, it's easiest for me to go from story to story through the gallery. So when I have enough time to read them all, that's exactly what I do. But sometimes I end up with a lot less time than I planned, and that's when this issue happens. On mobile this is an even larger issue.

I'm not asking you to agree with me personally. I'm providing a single data point which says, "I messed up this time and reviewed stories other than the ones selected for me, because I did not correctly guess how much time I would have available and doing it the way you suggest is more annoying for me".

I will not make the same mistake in the future, but I probably will stop reading stories on mobile entirely.
#115 · 1
· · >>CoffeeMinion
>>Trick_Question
I can't speak to mobile but what I do on Desktop at least is just ctrlclick on the voting window to open whatever story is next then ctrl W gets me out nice and simple. On mobile, well - I really don't do WO reading there because screw typing comments on my phone, even with swipewriting! Maybe that'd help?
#116 · 1
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>>Morning Sun
I actually do most of my WO reading/reviewing on mobile, and while I'm not particularly bothered by it, I agree that it could probably offer a better experience for the kind of workflow TQ describes.
#117 · 4
· · >>horizon
Hopefully this isn't premature, but I've probably read as many as I'm gonna before finals, so why not get some mashups going!!

Welcome Home to Sunset Shimmer's Kitchen: Thrill to the experience of Sunset's coitus interruptus as you relive it from a host of different perspectives, including Sunset herself, Flash Sentry, and the Eyeball! Sadly, the final sequence--told from the perspective of Sunset's sink--is where the whole thing just goes down the drain.

Solving for Deuteragonists: Starlight Glimmer (and her fun fork) take a much more direct approach to dealing with Twilight's meddling.

Petunia and the Froggy!: When Petunia Paleo discovers a rare and long-thought-to-be-extinct Froggus orangus right in her own backyard, there is literally NO CONTAINING her enthusiastic reaction.

Noblesse Palomino: Science Heaven becomes Science Hell for a millennium's worth of gigolos whose mistress refuses to let her playthings go.

My Destiny Is Your Trap: Starlight wakes up from her hangover to discover that some cheesed-off crystal ponies have barricaded themselves in the Crystal Castle Playset and are holding Twilight's cutie mark hostage while demanding Twilight relinquish her claim to the castle. As the only other pony in the castle, Starlight precipitates a Die Hard-esque scenario that lets the crystal ponies know it's not she who's locked in with them; it's they who are locked in with her.
#118 · 3
· · >>Syeekoh >>BlazzingInferno >>CoffeeMinion
Finished all stories in the finalist pool, but what with wife being in labor and all, I don't think I have the energy to comment on them. Will try if I end up with time. Apologies to the authors.
#119 · 2
· · >>AndrewRogue
>>AndrewRogue
Look man, you do you.

I don't think anyone is going to hold the arrival of your new child against you.

Congratulations, btw. :)
#120 · 2
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>>Syeekoh
I figure as much. But still. I consider the writeoff to be a form of workshopping and I dislike shirking those duties, even under somewhat extraordinary circumstances. <_<
#121 · 1
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>>AndrewRogue
Congratulations!
#122 · 3
· · >>CoffeeMinion >>Syeekoh
is anyone here not a dad?!
#123 · 2
· · >>Posh
>>AndrewRogue
Congratulations! May your child be healthy and a good sleeper!!

>>Posh
Geez, did you miss that in the site rules?! :trollestia:
#124 · 1
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>>Posh
...slowly raises hand.
#125 · 2
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>>CoffeeMinion
I didn't get a chance to join in on mashups back in prelims, but let's keep the tradition alive with another round! I don't want us non-dads to get left out of the action, after all.

Connections You Wish For — Stone Cutter and Golden Ring witness Spike and Starlight Glimmer's first fight, after Starlight purchases Spike an expensive gemstone necklace and Spike mistakes it for a gourmet snack.

A Nightmare in Twilight Sparkle — Despite the decade of careful coaching Celestia gave Twilight, things get awkward when she's sorting through her reams of fanmail one Best Princess Day: she realizes there's a scroll in Twilight's hornwriting addressed to Luna.

The Meaning of Friendship 101 — Rarity's getting sick of Sweetie Belle destroying Carousel Boutique in her Cutie Mark Crusades. She takes a trip to Canterlot to put a little "pressure" on Celestia, and Sweetie wakes up with a mark she has absolutely no idea how to interpret.

Bonding over Budweiser and I Can't Think of a Title — As a prank, Discord sends anthro-Celestia to an alternate dimension where actual humans and non-anthro ponies are fighting a war exercise. Both sides freak out and shoot her.
#126 · 3
· · >>Morning Sun
And this one kinda got away from me, so enjoy a Never The Final Word-esque mashup! I'm going to have to cross my fingers and hope both source stories get published so I can add it to my collection …



So Be Prepared To Precede San Palomino

Luna's departure from the Eternal Dream was one of the happiest days of Celestia's long life — but a tiny misgiving gnawed at Celestia, and she lay awake for several hours trying to work it loose.

"So, sister," Celestia said the next morning, after she'd coaxed her sister through a bowl of broth, a hot bath, and gratuitous amounts of rest. "There's one thing I don't understand about your decision to return to physical reality." She'd agonized for hours more over the wording of that sentence, and had made a point of including "physical" as a concession to Luna, as bitter as the taste was of acknowledging any reality to the dream utopia that had stolen so many of her little ponies.

"Mmm," Luna grunted through her still-raw throat.

Celestia still hadn't figured out how to put her next question delicately, but she was committed now, so she took a sip of tea and went for broke. "You're the mare who made the Eternal Dream possible. You're its living, beating heart. Shouldn't it, well, have halted without you and woken up every single inhabitant?"

Luna laughed — a raspy cackle that immediately turned into a cough that left her doubled over on the floor. Celestia bolted to her side, holding her until her shakes subsided.

"It halts without Luna," Luna whispered.

"… I don't understand."




Inside the Eternal Dream, Luna woke up to the calm, ethereal smile of the Nightmare.

She sat up, smiling back. "Thou hast returned! Art thou ready to help Us gain vengeance on Our sister, and correct ponykind's callous shunning of Our beautiful night?"

"About that," the Nightmare said, studying an insubstantial hoof. "The first Summer Sun celebration isn't actually tomorrow. It was one thousand, six hundred and twelve years and four months ago."

Luna opened and closed her mouth, and sat down heavily.

"Technically speaking, I'm not even the Nightmare," the shadow-horse said, and her form shimmered and flowed into one much more like Luna's own, but black of coat and wearing Luna's old war-armor. "Call me 'Nightmare Moon'. I'm you, a thousand years later. Present Us suggested that form would be the most comfortable way to break the news to you."

"We must have lost," Luna said, head hanging low. "We can envision no possible scenario in which Our future self would conjure up such phantoms had Our coup against Celestia succeeded."

Nightmare Moon's smile split open into a fangy grin. "Do you want the good news or the bad news first?"

"The bad. We fail to see any manner in which this could worsen."

Nightmare Moon nodded. "You're right. We lost — and were banished to the moon for a thousand years."

Luna winced. "… We stand corrected."

"The good news," Nightmare Moon said — drawing back the curtains to reveal a balcony with several more Lunas, who were basking in the enthusiastic cheers of ponies as far as the eye could see — "is that we basically won anyway."

Luna's jaw dropped. Her eyes bugged out.

"Present Luna's taking a bit of a sabbatical from ruling the Eternal Dream," Nightmare Moon said, "and she thought her younger selves might enjoy running paradise for a while …"
#127 · 3
· · >>CoffeeMinion
>>CoffeeMinion I'd best get on that, then. Surely, there's not a woman in the world who wouldn't want to father my child after I tell them about all my mad horsepoints.

Anyway, I do love me a good mash-up, and I have a desperate, emotional drive to belong and be accepted, so...

The Deuteragonist Trap: Starlight Glimmer and Trixie fall prey to the machinations of Blackstone, who plans to steal all cutie marks everywhere and use their magic to challenge a greater threat than even Sombra: the Melancholy of Twaluhi Sparklemiya.

Welcome Home Froggy! Princess Luna dreams, and in doing so, inhabits the body of the same frog in three alternate realities. One of them is French!

Solving for Friendship 101 in Love: Princess Celestia accidentally kills Twilight Sparkle during an impromptu lesson disguised as a cutecenera. Twilight Velvet demands that she violate the laws of nature themselves in order to bring back her daughter, and secures her compliance after using the same relish fork that killed Twilight to do terrible things to the monarch's eye sockets.

Shining Armor, meanwhile, gets peer pressured into drinking Guardbrau, the Royal Guard's homebrewed lager, and passes out upstairs after three sips. The Guards, giggling, draw penises and lewd remarks on his face and send him to Cadance's house as a Hearts and Hooves Day gift.

Petunia and the Eye That Floats Unblinking: Petunia Paleo wakes up from her drug-induced hallucination and finds her parents cowering in the kitchen, terrified by a floating eyeball that appeared there suddenly with no explanation. She is ecstatic. Princess Twilight is merely very, very exasperated. She gives careful consideration to the journal connecting hers and Sunset Shimmer's realities, and instead hits the Guardbrau.
#128 · 5
· · >>Posh >>BlazzingInferno
And because I finished voting on my slate, here's a mash or two...

Oblige the Noble Eye That Floats Unblinking in Sunset Shimmer's Kitchen
Flash is an exhibitionist. Celestia is an voyeur. Sunset never agreed to this.

Deuteragonists 101
"Moooom, Twily's warping reality again!"

Solving for the Colecanth
Petunia is a curious child with Big Dreams and a love of fossils. Starlight Glimmer has a scary smile, but knows how to bring things back to life - as long as you have magic, drugs, and one of those little two-prong fun forks.

The A San Destiny Night Palomino Trap Mare in Love
Celestia visits a magical dream dimension looking for her sister, only to have her magic stolen and be forced into acting as Shining Armor by a group of rebel stallions who worship Sunburst - but are mares in real life.

...yeah, that last one's a bit...
#129 ·
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>>Not_A_Hat
...yeah, that last one's a bit...


Amazing?
#130 ·
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>>Not_A_Hat
I would probably read all of these…
#131 · 2
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I couldn't sleep, so I stayed up to see the count wind down.

Congratulations, AndrewRogue, on a well-earned victory. But I hope you realize that I will have to devour you and consume your gold medal powers in order to achieve my perfect form.

Beware.
#132 · 1
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Congrats to winners and so forth! Now to do my retrospective!
#133 · 1
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Do I have to do a retrospective?

But it's SO EARLY

You guys probably aren't getting a retrospective until after my story is uploaded onto fimfic because I worked it over thanks to your wonderful advice.
#134 ·
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>>horizon
I quite liked this, thanks! And also was amused in that you kind of seized on the whole 'Luna is needed to maintain the dream' which is my going-forward big part of why they are in conflict.
#135 · 1
· · >>Posh
>>Posh
At last I can break my silence: "Petunia and the Eye That Floats Unblinking" is a bloody hilarious idea and I want to maybe steal it. Looks like you wrote the Eye one... that cool?
#136 ·
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>>CoffeeMinion My cover's blown,

Knock yourself out! But do me a favor and lemme get Eye posted before you do. Also credit me. Also I want fifty bucks.
#137 · 2
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Congratulations to AndrewRogue for an inaugural Writeoff medal (a gold no less!), and to Posh for completing a full set! Good job to everyone in general this round; I read all 18 fellow competitors, and even stories at the bottom of my slate had solid prose and enjoyable moments. There's absolutely no dishonor in a low score against this kind of competition. That also makes my bronze all the more meaningful.

I'm also amused by the fact that I've now scored four consecutive bronzes, along with four of my last five MLP entries being bronze. I seem to have inherited Cold in Gardez's silver curse, except one step down.

(Less humbly: This round also marks the tenth in a row that I've scored something other than a ribbon -- nine medals, plus Death By Dawn's Most Controversial -- which is a Writeoff record I don't think is going to be challenged any time soon. ^.^)

I'm heading off to a convention in about an hour, so I don't have the time right now for a retrospective on Deuteragonists. I would, however, like to note that I have never actually seen The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, though I was aware of its existence. I pretty much stole the fundamental concept and tried to take that in its own direction.

The feedback on my story was great, and I'm trying to take that into account with editing, though now that the round is over Time Enough For Love goes back to the top of the priority list.
#138 · 2
· · >>Posh >>BlazzingInferno
Well. That's the second most exciting thing to happen to me this week. :p

Serious congrats to everyone. I'd like to do the ol' breakdown of the story, but I don't have the energy tonight. Maybe tomorrow.
#139 ·
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>>AndrewRogue What's the f - oh, right. The dad thing.

Carry on.
#140 · 2
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>>AndrewRogue
Pfft, tomorrow? Sleep, buddy. Sleep while you can, whenever you can. The next month or so is going to blur together.