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[The following story contains spoilers for the cosmology of The Three Body Problem trilogy by Cixin Liu. If you wish to avoid spoilers, please abstain]
What was the most amount of magic Discord could get away with without Fluttershy noticing? It was one of the funnest games that he liked to practice while she was busy doing something or other. He was lounging on the couch, lazily swapping the body parts of the various animals in the room.
The rabbit and the squirrel gave the most blood curdling screech upon noticing that their feet had been swapped. Fluttershy might’ve noticed if he hadn’t have placed a sound barrier around them.
The rabbit shambled over and tried to smack him with a paw, but Discord simply let it pass through him, making his body go intangible. He stuck out his tongue at the rabbit and grinned.
That was when the words started.
The block of strange yellow symbols floated up from under the floor. No sooner had the first block appeared than another set of even stranger symbols rose forth like a scrolling marquee.
“Discord! What are doing?” yelled Fluttershy from the kitchen.
“Why does everyone blame me first for these kinds of things?” huffed Discord, as several new blocks of different shaped symbols marched from the floor.
Fluttershy ducked back into the living room. “Here, too?”
“There’s more than one of these?” asked Discord. By this time the march of symbols had gone past the ceiling and more kept coming from below. He snapped his paws and made several copies of himself, leaving a core self at the cottage and teleporting several spares across Equestria.
The “message” was being beamed all throughout Equestria. There were so many spares that it felt impossible for any creature not to notice it. It would be nigh impossible for him to cover this up now, whatever it was.
“What did you do to Angel’s feet?” asked a voice from what felt like far away.
Discord snapped his talons. “Nothing,” he said.
Fluttershy sighed, closed her eyes and then massaged her head with a hoof. “We’ve talked about this.”
“And we can talk about it again, but not now. This,” he said gesturing to the symbols, “I’m not sure what it is, but it’s important.”
One of Discord’s copies reached the other side of the planet. Everything was pitch black except for the slightly glowing yellow symbols. The “message” had been broadcasting there for several hours. The long chain of symbols had passed through the planet and had come out again on the other side.
The copy looked up and got a feeling of vertigo as he gazed at the marquee that seemed to go on forever. He jumped up and flew along its path, the symbols were a blur as he raced into space. One kilometer, two, ten, a hundred, they just kept going.
“What does it say?” asked Fluttershy from far away.
The Discord inside the cottage shrugged.
The copy of Discord zoomed along the thread. There were so many threads of the broadcast crisscrossing all of space, as if Equestria alone hadn’t been the target. No. Equestria had been the target, the broadcasters just had not have known where in space Equestria might have been. The copy continued to race along the marquee until all at once, the message stopped. The copy looked back down on the planet of Equestria below. From where he viewed, the planet laid mostly in darkness, only a large sun orbiting around it illuminated a crescent patch on the right.
Another copy of Discord teleported to the other side of planet to the exact same marquee. After some quick mathematical spellwork, the marquee was calculated to be over a thousand kilometers long.
Back at the cottage, a familiar set of symbols appeared. Discord recognized the alphabet instantly, as if they were an old forgotten friend. The straight lines and curves instantly relaxed him. He had forgotten what it was like to read in his mother tongue, it had been eons. It had been—
His mind finally understood what the message meant.
Every Discord in Equestria snapped back into the one in Fluttershy’s cottage. Something inside him completely broke and he collapsed onto the floor. He could’ve melted into a puddle, but he didn’t have the energy for magic, or the sense of humor to do it.
The message would kill them all.
“Are you okay, Discord?” said Fluttershy, poking at him with a hoof.
“No,” said Discord blankly.
“Umm…” said Fluttershy.
The marquee continued to stream past. The last time Discord had been so still, he had been a statue.
“No,” said Discord again. Fluttershy stepped back.
He snapped his talons, willing the march of symbols to disappear, but they didn't.
“NO!” he screeched, standing up and snapping his talons again, trying another spell to banish them. “NO!” he said again, trying another spell that would set the symbols invisible. “NO!” he repeated, trying to hide each side of the symbols behind a black veil. “NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!”
With every “no” he snapped his talons and tried a different spell to remove the marquee. Not even a miniature black hole so much as made the languages budge. He closed his lion’s paw around the miniature void and made it disappear into nothingness.
Fluttershy sat on the couch and watched the vain display of magic. After several long moments of Discord breathing heavily, she spoke up. “Discord, what is this?”
He shot her a dirty look and said nothing. He just sat straight up on the couch and didn’t move a muscle. His eyes kept staring at the marquee still spilling up from below. His mind raced, then went blank, then raced around in circles until something crashed and his mind went blank again.
There was a knock on the door, and one of Fluttershy’s ducks dropped onto the handle and opened the door wide, revealing a calm Princess Celestia.
“I can’t help you,” said Discord blankly, not looking at her.
Celestia paused mid-stride, before continuing to walk in. “It’s nice to see you too, Discord,” she flashed him a warm smile. Her radiant beam shifted from Discord to Fluttershy.
“And how are you, Fluttershy?”
“I’m fine, Princess Celestia,” said Fluttershy, her eyes flashing to the yellow symbols still streaming from the floor. “Umm… would you like some tea?”
“That would be great!” said Celestia. “Can I help?”
“Oh, umm… sure,” said Fluttershy as she trotted back into the kitchen with Celestia in tow.
Once they got out of earshot of Discord, and water was gushing from the faucet into a kettle, Celestia asked, “Does he know what’s going on?”
Fluttershy shut the water off, and nodded.
“Has he told you anything?”
Fluttershy set the kettle onto the stove and shook her head. “Whatever it is,” Fluttershy whispered. “I’ve never seen him so scared.”
Celestia raised an eyebrow. “Wouldn’t he be going white or making it rain on himself or something?”
Fluttershy shook her head. “He only does stuff like that when he wants to be silly, which is usually all the time. But this time...”
“I see,” said Celestia, frowning. “That’s not a good sign.”
Her horn glowed and the water inside the cold kettle instantly started boiling.
“What’s his favorite kind of tea?” she asked, already pouring water into three teacups.
Fluttershy grabbed some tea bags and threw them into the cups, adding extra sugar into one of them. They both trotted back into the living room but Discord didn’t so much as blink.
Fluttershy sat right next to him and offered him his usual cup. “Would you like some tea, Discord?”
“I’m…” began Discord, his speech halting. “I’m… not… thirsty.”
“It’s your favorite kind,” mentioned Fluttershy, holding out the tea cup to him.
He blinked and stared at the cup, reflexively reaching down to pick it up. He held onto it with a paw, but didn’t drink it.
“Discord,” began Celestia.
“I can’t help you,” said Discord, his eyes still glazed over.
“Discord, what do these symbols mean?” she asked, gesturing to the nearly infinite wall of symbols.
“What do I look like, a translator!?” sneered Discord, some venom encroaching back into his words.
Celestia flinched before regaining her composure. “Well, if you knew what some of these languages said, we would appreciate it.”
Discord said nothing.
The room was quiet for a long time while Celestia and Fluttershy drank their tea and the words floated by.
When Celestia finished her tea, she turned to walk away. “If you can’t help me, I’m sure Twilight will.”
Discord snorted. “She won’t know any of these languages.”
“She has a team of linguists, mathematicians and a sample size of over one hundred thousand languages so far. Not every language in this cipher is phonetic based, there should be enough pictograms to figure out most of the meaning.”
“NO!” Discord shouted, flying off the couch and putting his face close to hers. “YOU HAVE TO STOP HER!”
Celestia only raised an eyebrow. “And why is that?”
“If... you find that out," Discord stepped back, resting his lions paw on the back of his neck and looking at the floor, "you will destroy Equestria.”
Celestia stepped back. “What are you talking about?”
“If you fully understand what this message says," he said, staring her in the eyes. "Equestria as we know it will be destroyed. The best decision is to just leave it alone.”
“But this is a message from across the stars. This means we’re not alone in the universe, this is—“
“Going to kill absolutely everypony,” finished Discord.
Spike had never scribbled so fast in his life. This method of writing was so much more difficult than what he was used to. Every symbol had to be carefully copied down exactly as it appeared, and all his little shorthand tricks to write things down faster were absolutely useless here. It was more drawing than writing.
He carefully finished one language block and set the scroll down on the bottom of the hot air balloon. He reached up and pulled the rope to let out the air, causing him to descend down below.
Twilight told him to focus on languages made from symbols, the alphabet based ones were useless. It took a while to get used to, but he could distinguish the alphabet based ones by the way they seemed to be made from simpler shapes that repeated more often. He just had to focus on pictures. He didn’t feel like he was the best artist in the world, especially having to work with the strange glyphs.
It was a good thing there was a stack of photographer pegasi down below taking pictures of everything. But Twilight still wanted Spike to handwrite some of these to see if there was some extra meaning gained from reconstructing the symbols.
Spike had seen runes and other magical languages before, but this was beyond that by orders of magnitude. There were so many languages here! He had to have written down over 500 at this point, and had glimpsed at hundreds of thousands. And they just kept coming!
Whoever wrote this message had something important to say to absolutely everyone. And the sender didn’t know what language the receiver would understand, so they just sent everything they could. How many of these languages actually had ponies that spoke them? Equestria only had four languages and two of those were dead.
But the message was coming from… space? So Luna is sending this message? No, Twilight wouldn’t have frantically demanded Spike start writing if this was Luna’s doing.
Spike heard a commotion from down below. He stole a glance and saw that Discord was destroying cameras. Photographer ponies screamed in outrage at their broken equipment.
A few moments later Princess Celestia rushed Twilight out of the library in Canterlot, several scrolls worth of glyphs he had transcribed were burning far down below.
Spike’s stomach lurched and he hid inside the basket.
Princess Celestia and Discord were destroying the message? Why would they destroy it? There was a special knowledge here that somepony demanded that Equestria know about.
He needed to hide the scroll. But how? The main pony he usually sent scrolls too would burn it on the spot. He started rolling up the scroll, not caring that some of the ink hadn’t finished drying yet.
Spike had learned how to control his fire magic to send scrolls to Twilight but… she was down below too. Was there anypony left he could trust to keep it safe?
He quickly scribbled “HIDE THIS!” on the outside of the scroll and readjusted the magic inside of his throat. He held the scroll to his mouth and breathed out a pure white flame.
No sooner had he done so when Discord appeared in the basket with him and every single piece of parchment in the basket caught fire.
“Hey! What are you doing!?” Spike yelled.
“Sorry about all this,” said Discord gesturing to the parade of yellow symbols. “I have a habit of playing with languages and I accidentally wrote too many and they started escaping, y’see?” said Discord with a wry grin. “I’m so sorry you had to see all that.”
“Those are your languages?” asked Spike.
“But of course!” said Discord, removing a top hat from his head and bowing.
“Then why are you destroying them?”
“Oh you know how artists get, Spike!” said Discord, appearing with an easel and paints, some of the glyphs passing beside them displayed on the canvas. “You just can’t show something when it’s not ready! It’s embarrassing! And I can’t say I’ve ever been more embarrassed to see all of these—“ He cringed, but Spike could tell there was a stronger fear behind his expression. “All these rough drafts—all these… sloppy copies. That’s a better term for it. I don’t like ponies seeing them.”
Spike stared at him.
“Sorry about all that! Now do me a favor and make sure that any other copies get destroyed," he said, poking him for emphasis. "This is surely my most embarrassing moment.”
“More embarrassing than getting turned to stone?”
Discord stood rigid for second before glaring and responding in an icy tone. “Yes.”
With a snap of his lion’s paw, he disappeared.
Spike breathed a sigh of relief, and then reached up to let hot air out of the balloon. As he descended, he noticed yellow light beaming through the small gaps in the basket. He looked over and saw that all of Equestria was bathed in a golden glow. The marquees of text zoomed away and Spike could see as he grew closer to the ground that the Celestia’s horn was glowing.
She was moving all of Equestria, and Luna was moving the sun and moon alongside of it.
“What in Equestria…?” Spike whispered to himself.
When Spike reached the ground, there were no more scrolling marquee’s of foreign glyphs erupting out of the ground everywhere. It was just a normal day in Equestria again.
Twilight was in hysterics.
“Celestia burning knowledge!? I mean—who does that!? Well, now we know that Celestia does. She does have that whole sun motif going on, but that doesn’t mean she burns things! Especially not scrolls—I mean they’re practically books—baby books! Things that have the possibility of becoming books someday! Gone!”
Twilight paced up and down the length of her palace library, fuming. Several hours had passed since the marquees had come and gone and it was now late into the night.
“What story did Celestia tell you?” asked Spike.
Twilight instantly froze. She took a deep breath and exhaled for a long time. “Celestia told me that whatever was in those messages could destroy Equestria. An enemy sent them as propaganda and we must not decipher them.”
She stopped pacing and sat down on her haunches.
“That’s a lot more believable than what Discord told me,” said Spike, frowning. “Still, this is really strange.”
“Is she right, Spike?” asked Twilight. “Is there knowledge that could be detrimental if it was known? I always viewed knowledge as something that you always want more and more of. There is absolutely no scenario in which obtaining information is a bad thing. EXCEPT THIS!?”
He frowned. “You got me, Twilight.”
“There’s no point thinking about it anyway, all the research is gone, all the photos are gone. Everything is gone. And Celestia...”
Spike walked over and hugged her. “It’ll be okay, Twilight. Not all hope is lost.”
Twilight tensed up. “What do you mean?”
Spike inhaled in a sharp breath and stepped back. “I mean… I may still have some of the message. But I want you to think it through. Whatever this is has both Celestia and Discord worried. Maybe this isn’t something—“
“Where is it?” asked Twilight, standing up and getting ready to move.
“Are you sure?” asked Spike, staring into her eyes.
Twilight glanced away, thinking about the decision more. “Messages that could destroy Equestria,” she sighed. “They could destroy Equestria— it’s not like they will. I know plenty of spells that could wreck Equestria in awful ways. But having that knowledge isn’t dangerous because I know not to use it.” Twilight looked back into Spike’s eyes. “I want to know.”
Spike disappeared and reappeared a few moments later with a scroll.
“How did you manage to keep that safe from Discord and Celestia?
“I umm…” started Spike sheepishly. “I learned how to send letters to more than just Celestia and you.”
“Oh?” asked Twilight.
“It’s nice to send Rarity letters, too,” said Spike, a blush appearing on his cheeks. “Well anyway, it’s a good thing I learned how to adjust that spell.”
“I’ll say!” said Twilight as she grabbed the scroll with her magic and opened it carefully.
The last block of glyphs at the bottom had been smudged, but the other twenty three sets appeared intact. Twilight excitedly began to look closely at each of the sets of languages, analyzing each in turn.
The scroll only contained pictographic based languages, which were the most useful languages for their purposes. But most of it still looked like gibberish.
There was one set in particular that made the most sense to her:
She stared at it for a long time, and then went back and forth, looking at the other languages. Every time she thought she made a discovery, something else seemed to contradict it. Then she remembered that some languages have a word order that is opposite of her own. Languages that start verb first are completely backwards and whatever meaning she thought it had, could be the reverse.
However, most of the languages had symbols that were star and sun related. And then another symbol that looked like something bad or dangerous. And then another symbol that looked… like…
“Spike… does that look like an atom to you?”
Spike gave her a look as if she had just told him to eat dog food. “How am I supposed to know that!?”
“No… I—I’ve seen hypothetical diagrams, I’m sure. Could you check to see if—YES!"
Spike stood bewildered as Twilight’s horn glowed and a few volumes flew off of a shelf. She flipped through the pages until she found the diagram she had wanted. A model of the atom by Star Swirl the Bearded (that stallion got so much done during his life). His diagram looked suspiciously similar to several of the pictograms in various languages on the page.
“Spike, I’m going to start babbling what’ll most likely be random nonsense. Can you write it down?”
“I’ve been doing that for years.”
She almost smacked him with her wing. Almost. She looked back down at the page and attempted to interpret what she saw.
“Something curved arrow something: atom space down something wave. Space curved arrow open closed, something hourglass… death infinity double arrows. Sun cloud death. Something something atom curved arrow, forward circle cloud confetti space.”
She repeated the same exercise with each of the other twenty two languages. After she was done, she breathed a sigh of relief.
“What words did I say the most often?” asked Twilight.
Spike peered over the page. “Hmm… space, star, universe, death, infinity, down, wide. Basically random gibberish.” He shrugged.
“Let’s do that one more time,” said Twilight. “I’ll do more… conjecturing this time.”
“Urgent from something: atoms space decreasing something. Space from open close, something slowly death infinite expand. Sun cloud death. Please atom return from, send whole clouds party space.”
She kept going through each of the languages, conjecturing more outlandishly, trying to pick apart the symbols. So many of them made no sense. Perhaps they were body parts of creatures she had never seen? Perhaps they were plants or animals she would never know. One thing remained very constant: the stars. Something was happening to the stars.
She went through this exercise several more times before Spike complained about how late it had gotten.
She steeled herself away from her work and finally agreed to let her mind rest on it.
That night Twilight dreamt about the symbols. Atoms, mass, stuff, objects from stars. Not enough. Stars dying. Stars stretching outward. Stars dying. Ponies dying. Everyone dying. Send back atoms. Save what can be saved.
The symbols shifted in the dream and transformed into stars around her. The stars kept running away from her like fireflies. She was able to catch one, but the rest zipped away. But instead of flying away forever, she could see that all the stars not under her control died and dropped to the floor. She screamed at the stars. Why couldn’t they all just stay in her hooves? She would have protected them. She mourned over the stars, and held tightly onto the one star she had saved.
A message appeared in front of her. It was in the same pictograms, but she felt like she knew what they meant: “give up your star.” She stared at the star held tightly against herself with her hooves and mourned it.
In agony, she finally let the star she was holding go.
To her surprise, all the other stars that had remained dead on the ground started wobbling. The one star she had given up pulled on every dead star and they converged onto a single point in front of her. A singularity of blinding light completely shattered her sense of reality. No sooner had the single point holding infinite stars appeared than they exploded like a firework, sending billions of tiny stars in every direction. There were far more stars now than had been there at the start of her dream.
She looked down at her hooves. Her one star was gone. She had had to sacrifice it in order for all the rest of the stars in the sky to be alive again.
Twilight greeted the morning sun with tears. She knew why Celestia had said this message could destroy Equestria. And she felt so ashamed to admit to herself… that for the sake of the rest of the universe, Equestria had to die. They all had to die. If they didn’t… everyone else that could possibly exist would.
“Uhh… Twilight?” Spike appeared over her. “You don’t look so good.”
“I’m… fine…” she whispered, her voice coming out hoarse.
“You look like…” he stared at her, putting a claw to his chin in concentration, “you need oats this morning! With some tea! And some berries in the oats. How does that sound?”
She grinned feebly, “Thanks Spike.”
After a long breakfast and stewing hard over her dream and the message, Twilight finally spoke up. “I’ll be at Fluttershy’s cottage if you need me.”
Spike stared at her before replying, “You don’t want to keep working on deciphering the message?”
“I…” she tried to begin. “No… not right now. I need to get out of the castle for a bit.”
She thanked Spike for breakfast and trotted down the peaceful lanes of Ponyville. It was such a vibrant, rich town. She knew almost everypony’s name here. Inside every building was a friend. And every blade of grass was a miracle of life.
She took a full hour to make her way to Fluttershy’s cottage. She strolled along smelling flowers, made small talk with acquaintances, basked in the sunlight, and waved hello to everypony she saw.
When she finally reached her destination, she felt like turning back. It was like walking to a gallows, except she was her own executioner.
She gave the door three sharp knocks. The door swung wide open and Discord was lounging on the couch. He took one look at Twilight and immediately tensed up.
Fluttershy came into the room from the back. “Oh hello Twilight, how are you today?”
“I— I need to talk to Discord,” said Twilight. Fluttershy turned to go back. “But I would like you to be here for this, too.”
“Oh… umm… okay,” said Fluttershy sheepishly, before sitting down on the couch next to a very apprehensive Discord.
Twilight sat down on an armchair and breathed in and out. “Discord… I translated the message.”
“NO!” Discord shouted, his voice shook the entire cottage and several of the animals scurried away. “CELESTIA TOLD YOU NOT TO!”
“But I had to know, Discord. I...” her throat clenched. “I had to know.”
“Whatever happened to the ‘faithful student?’” Discord sneered. “Fluttershy, go on outside and work with some animals or something.”
“No,” said Twilight calmly. “I want her here for this. I want her to know the decision you’ve made for Equestria and for the universe.”
Discord brought a paw up to his eyes, trying to hide his own fears. “Well… out with it then. What’s your translation?”
Discord stared at her. “How in Tartarus did you manage that!?”
“Am I correct?”
“Every word,” Discord said through gritted teeth.
“Then that means we can’t stay here.”
“I KNOW what it means! But I’m not going to do as it says. I like Equestria! I like all of my friends! And I like Fluttershy and I’m not giving all it UP FOR SOME STUPID UNIVERSE I ESCAPED FROM IN THE FIRST PLACE! YOU HEAR ME!”
“Discord?” asked Fluttershy timidly. “What’s going on? What does all that even mean?”
Discord closed his eyes and was silent for a few moments. When he finally opened them again the words spilled out.
“The universe is a cold, unforgiving place, Fluttershy. Every alien race wants every other alien race dead. And I did EVERYTHING to keep us safe in this disgusting dark forest. I helped in every step of the way for us to safely extrude from ten dimensions down to a paltry two. I constructed black domains to ensure that we would never be noticed. I did everything in my power to keep our civilization alive. And when ALL of that didn’t work, I finally figured out how to construct pocket universes. But to do so I took some mass and a star and I set up a nice cozy universe for everypony to live.
“THIS!” he gestured around at the cottage and beyond. “This is the only safe way to live.”
“But… it's too high of a cost,” added Twilight.
“It’s not too high! What did the universe ever give us!? A billion alien races with a death ray pointed straight at us. That’s what the universe is! Alien races bending the laws of physics and using it as a weapon against us! We owe them nothing!”
“We need to return the mass Discord took from the main universe,” said Twilight. “If we don’t, then that main universe will perpetually expand and die. But if we do, then the mass will collide into a big crunch, form a new big bang, and create a new universe.”
“That’s IF all those lousy alien races ALSO follow through and give up the mass in their own pocket universes. Did you see how many languages passed through? There are millions, perhaps billions of pocket universes out there with their own mass stolen from the main universe. If most don’t agree to sacrifice their lives, then the universe won’t collapse into a big crunch anyway! We might as well live comfortably here!”
“I…” said Fluttershy. “I still don’t understand.”
Twilight started speaking before Discord could say anything. “Fluttershy, would you sacrifice yourself to save a stranger?”
“Of course,” said Fluttershy without hesitation.
Discord’s ears lowered.
“Would you sacrifice yourself to save ten million strangers?”
“Yes,” said Fluttershy, a little confused by the question.
“Would you sacrifice yourself, and all of Equestria, to save an infinite amount of strangers?”
Fluttershy thought about that question a little longer. “I… I think so.”
Discord brought his paw and talons to cover his eyes. All was still for a few moments before Discord erupted. “HOW DARE YOU DO THIS TO FLUTTERSHY! How dare you do this to Equestria, to all of your friends, to absolutely everypony and everything you hold dear! One lousy universe dying permanently and never being born again is no reason to sacrifice everything.”
“You forget the second law of thermodynamics, Discord. ‘The total entropy of an isolated system always increases over time.’ This pocket universe is an isolated system. Equestria and its sun will die eventually too. And we won’t have a main universe to pluck out fresh mass from anymore.”
At this, Discord completely fell apart. Fluttershy held onto him tightly as he cried into her mane.
“No, no, no, no! Please don’t do this to me! I love Fluttershy, I want to be with her, I don’t want to worry about entropy and all that star stuff and dark forests! I just want to be here in Equestria with her and… and…”
"I'm sorry," was all Twilight could say.
After a long time, and after all the tears had been shed, Discord snapped his talons.
Every single atom that existed inside the pocket universe stopped. After a long time Discord unwrapped himself out of Fluttershy’s embrace and went to examine the work to be done.
With a snap of his lion’s paw, he expanded his size to a quarter the size of the pocket universe, and started to tear off the wallpaper magic with its fake stationary stars. The sun and moon started to careen away, but he plucked them out of the sky and set a “group stasis” spell so they wouldn’t stray far from the planet of Equestria.
All in all, tearing things apart was far easier than it had been to create them in the first place. Discord grumbled something about “entropy” to himself, and sighed. He couldn’t bear to do the actual destroying of Equestria himself. The big crunch could handle that. He simply let Equestria and its sun stay frozen.
He hunched over and finally undid what he had done so many eons ago. A rip appeared in the nothingness in front of him, and suddenly all the spacetime in his pocket universe started rushing back into its primordial home. Equestria and its sun followed along with, and Discord let all but a tiny amount of space escape from the pocket.
Discord sat on the planet of Equestria, keeping his giant form intangible so as not to hurt anypony. Not like it mattered anymore anyway.
“Fine universe,” said Discord, defeated. “I hope you’re happy.”
“Thank you,” said a voice.
Discord instinctively covered up Equestria with his own body, coiling around it like a snake would an egg. He had half a mind to cloak Equestria by slowing down the speed of light to the rate of the sun’s gravity and thus turning this area into a black domain.
“Who’s there?” asked Discord.
“Just a Stranger. May I ask how you are storing the memories to be sent to the future?”
Discord peered at Stranger. It appeared to be an orb of light with long gyrating light waves dangling below it like a jellyfish.
“Why? So you can steal it!?” seethed Discord.
“No, I wish to help it be efficient,” said Stranger. "We need as much mass as possible in this universe. You have already made the commitment to die, you have no need to fear me.”
Discord’s ears drooped.
“Okay,” said Discord. “I… I was just going to send a book into the next universe. I can’t think of anything better.”
“A book? That’s not nearly efficient,” said Stranger.
Discord stared at the glowing orb and shrugged. “What would you do?”
"A single hydrogen atom should do the trick."
“An atom!?” balked Discord. “What am I supposed to do with that!?”
“Create a backup copy of your pocket universe of course. A whole atom should be sufficient.”
Discord raised an eyebrow.
“Let me show you,” said Stranger.
Discord watched as Stranger plucked a single hydrogen atom off of Equestria’s sun. “The trick is to teach the electron on the atom to remember a long pattern. From that point on, the electron will continue to follow that same pattern indefinitely. It can be stored in the pocket universe, and then released after the next universe’s big bang has cooled off a little.”
“And what exactly is being stored in that electron?”
“Everything,” said Stranger.
Discord watched in awe as Stranger made the atom crisscross back and forth over a frozen griffon in Equestria below. Once the atom was done scanning, the electron’s orbital pattern shifted rhythmically and could be reinterpreted as organic printing instructions. A second griffon absolutely identical to the one below started to be “printed.”
“You can fit that much information on a single hydrogen atom?”
Stranger glowed a bit brighter for a moment. “Yes. It’s not that difficult really. You could even store it in the mathematical constants of the next universe. Like the culture from the last universe that stored themselves in π in this universe. ”
Discord’s eyes darted back to Stranger. “What’s the catch?”
“No catch,” said Stranger.
“No really, what’s the catch?” demanded Discord.
Stranger said nothing for a moment before responding. “This universe, and the last universe’s Dark Forest psychology has been deplorable. Please, when your civilization’s copy enters the next universe, do not ‘shoot first and ask questions later.’ I’ve gotten to know a lot of worlds in my travels. The next universe doesn’t need to be as dark as this one has been.”
Discord nodded.
“Thank you,” said Stranger. The bright light went to leave, but Discord called out to it at the last second.
A single penetrating idea came to his mind that Fluttershy would have liked. “Do you need help?” asked Discord.
“With what?” asked Stranger.
“With telling other civilizations. I’m sure not all of them know that you can save a back-up atom that will recreate the memories of everyone. I could help you find others.”
“I…” said Stranger. “I would like that very much.”
“I’ve shown you everything you need to know,” said Stranger. “Now watch and make sure that your atom is working.”
Stranger flew off, and Discord patiently waited as the atom gathered all the information, saving himself for last.
After the atom finished gathering everything by zipping back and forth through Discord’s brain, it finally stopped. He reset the atom and it started working in backwards order, forming another Discord. He stopped the atom, reset it, and hid it inside the pocket universe. Then he set the pocket universe to open up again when the big bang had cooled off.
Everything was in place.
Discord stared at the frozen Equestria. They would all die soon enough, but he wouldn’t let this version of them know about it. He left Equestria to remain frozen.
He flew far, far away, sending that same message that had caused all this in the first place, adding more languages to the marquee as he found them. He helped countless cultures set up backups of themselves and he asked them nicely not to continue the Dark Forest psychology into the next cycle.
It’s what Fluttershy would have wanted.
The first thing Discord noticed were the stars. There were so many of them. In all of his existence, he had never seen this many and so brightly before.
The atom had successfully escaped the pocket universe and was already well on its way to printing a copy of everyone in Equestria. Discord quickly searched for a nice planet, and a good sun. There were so many to pick from in this primordial universe. He finally picked a small one and started manipulating it to be like Equestria.
He kept everyone that the atom replicated in stasis, and spent a long time adjusting everything to be just right.
When all was done, he flew down to Fluttershy’s cottage, held her in his arms just as he had left her, and snapped his talons.
What was the most amount of magic Discord could get away with without Fluttershy noticing? It was one of the funnest games that he liked to practice while she was busy doing something or other. He was lounging on the couch, lazily swapping the body parts of the various animals in the room.
The rabbit and the squirrel gave the most blood curdling screech upon noticing that their feet had been swapped. Fluttershy might’ve noticed if he hadn’t have placed a sound barrier around them.
The rabbit shambled over and tried to smack him with a paw, but Discord simply let it pass through him, making his body go intangible. He stuck out his tongue at the rabbit and grinned.
That was when the words started.
The block of strange yellow symbols floated up from under the floor. No sooner had the first block appeared than another set of even stranger symbols rose forth like a scrolling marquee.
“Discord! What are doing?” yelled Fluttershy from the kitchen.
“Why does everyone blame me first for these kinds of things?” huffed Discord, as several new blocks of different shaped symbols marched from the floor.
Fluttershy ducked back into the living room. “Here, too?”
“There’s more than one of these?” asked Discord. By this time the march of symbols had gone past the ceiling and more kept coming from below. He snapped his paws and made several copies of himself, leaving a core self at the cottage and teleporting several spares across Equestria.
The “message” was being beamed all throughout Equestria. There were so many spares that it felt impossible for any creature not to notice it. It would be nigh impossible for him to cover this up now, whatever it was.
“What did you do to Angel’s feet?” asked a voice from what felt like far away.
Discord snapped his talons. “Nothing,” he said.
Fluttershy sighed, closed her eyes and then massaged her head with a hoof. “We’ve talked about this.”
“And we can talk about it again, but not now. This,” he said gesturing to the symbols, “I’m not sure what it is, but it’s important.”
One of Discord’s copies reached the other side of the planet. Everything was pitch black except for the slightly glowing yellow symbols. The “message” had been broadcasting there for several hours. The long chain of symbols had passed through the planet and had come out again on the other side.
The copy looked up and got a feeling of vertigo as he gazed at the marquee that seemed to go on forever. He jumped up and flew along its path, the symbols were a blur as he raced into space. One kilometer, two, ten, a hundred, they just kept going.
“What does it say?” asked Fluttershy from far away.
The Discord inside the cottage shrugged.
The copy of Discord zoomed along the thread. There were so many threads of the broadcast crisscrossing all of space, as if Equestria alone hadn’t been the target. No. Equestria had been the target, the broadcasters just had not have known where in space Equestria might have been. The copy continued to race along the marquee until all at once, the message stopped. The copy looked back down on the planet of Equestria below. From where he viewed, the planet laid mostly in darkness, only a large sun orbiting around it illuminated a crescent patch on the right.
Another copy of Discord teleported to the other side of planet to the exact same marquee. After some quick mathematical spellwork, the marquee was calculated to be over a thousand kilometers long.
Back at the cottage, a familiar set of symbols appeared. Discord recognized the alphabet instantly, as if they were an old forgotten friend. The straight lines and curves instantly relaxed him. He had forgotten what it was like to read in his mother tongue, it had been eons. It had been—
His mind finally understood what the message meant.
Every Discord in Equestria snapped back into the one in Fluttershy’s cottage. Something inside him completely broke and he collapsed onto the floor. He could’ve melted into a puddle, but he didn’t have the energy for magic, or the sense of humor to do it.
The message would kill them all.
“Are you okay, Discord?” said Fluttershy, poking at him with a hoof.
“No,” said Discord blankly.
“Umm…” said Fluttershy.
The marquee continued to stream past. The last time Discord had been so still, he had been a statue.
“No,” said Discord again. Fluttershy stepped back.
He snapped his talons, willing the march of symbols to disappear, but they didn't.
“NO!” he screeched, standing up and snapping his talons again, trying another spell to banish them. “NO!” he said again, trying another spell that would set the symbols invisible. “NO!” he repeated, trying to hide each side of the symbols behind a black veil. “NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!”
With every “no” he snapped his talons and tried a different spell to remove the marquee. Not even a miniature black hole so much as made the languages budge. He closed his lion’s paw around the miniature void and made it disappear into nothingness.
Fluttershy sat on the couch and watched the vain display of magic. After several long moments of Discord breathing heavily, she spoke up. “Discord, what is this?”
He shot her a dirty look and said nothing. He just sat straight up on the couch and didn’t move a muscle. His eyes kept staring at the marquee still spilling up from below. His mind raced, then went blank, then raced around in circles until something crashed and his mind went blank again.
There was a knock on the door, and one of Fluttershy’s ducks dropped onto the handle and opened the door wide, revealing a calm Princess Celestia.
“I can’t help you,” said Discord blankly, not looking at her.
Celestia paused mid-stride, before continuing to walk in. “It’s nice to see you too, Discord,” she flashed him a warm smile. Her radiant beam shifted from Discord to Fluttershy.
“And how are you, Fluttershy?”
“I’m fine, Princess Celestia,” said Fluttershy, her eyes flashing to the yellow symbols still streaming from the floor. “Umm… would you like some tea?”
“That would be great!” said Celestia. “Can I help?”
“Oh, umm… sure,” said Fluttershy as she trotted back into the kitchen with Celestia in tow.
Once they got out of earshot of Discord, and water was gushing from the faucet into a kettle, Celestia asked, “Does he know what’s going on?”
Fluttershy shut the water off, and nodded.
“Has he told you anything?”
Fluttershy set the kettle onto the stove and shook her head. “Whatever it is,” Fluttershy whispered. “I’ve never seen him so scared.”
Celestia raised an eyebrow. “Wouldn’t he be going white or making it rain on himself or something?”
Fluttershy shook her head. “He only does stuff like that when he wants to be silly, which is usually all the time. But this time...”
“I see,” said Celestia, frowning. “That’s not a good sign.”
Her horn glowed and the water inside the cold kettle instantly started boiling.
“What’s his favorite kind of tea?” she asked, already pouring water into three teacups.
Fluttershy grabbed some tea bags and threw them into the cups, adding extra sugar into one of them. They both trotted back into the living room but Discord didn’t so much as blink.
Fluttershy sat right next to him and offered him his usual cup. “Would you like some tea, Discord?”
“I’m…” began Discord, his speech halting. “I’m… not… thirsty.”
“It’s your favorite kind,” mentioned Fluttershy, holding out the tea cup to him.
He blinked and stared at the cup, reflexively reaching down to pick it up. He held onto it with a paw, but didn’t drink it.
“Discord,” began Celestia.
“I can’t help you,” said Discord, his eyes still glazed over.
“Discord, what do these symbols mean?” she asked, gesturing to the nearly infinite wall of symbols.
“What do I look like, a translator!?” sneered Discord, some venom encroaching back into his words.
Celestia flinched before regaining her composure. “Well, if you knew what some of these languages said, we would appreciate it.”
Discord said nothing.
The room was quiet for a long time while Celestia and Fluttershy drank their tea and the words floated by.
When Celestia finished her tea, she turned to walk away. “If you can’t help me, I’m sure Twilight will.”
Discord snorted. “She won’t know any of these languages.”
“She has a team of linguists, mathematicians and a sample size of over one hundred thousand languages so far. Not every language in this cipher is phonetic based, there should be enough pictograms to figure out most of the meaning.”
“NO!” Discord shouted, flying off the couch and putting his face close to hers. “YOU HAVE TO STOP HER!”
Celestia only raised an eyebrow. “And why is that?”
“If... you find that out," Discord stepped back, resting his lions paw on the back of his neck and looking at the floor, "you will destroy Equestria.”
Celestia stepped back. “What are you talking about?”
“If you fully understand what this message says," he said, staring her in the eyes. "Equestria as we know it will be destroyed. The best decision is to just leave it alone.”
“But this is a message from across the stars. This means we’re not alone in the universe, this is—“
“Going to kill absolutely everypony,” finished Discord.
Spike had never scribbled so fast in his life. This method of writing was so much more difficult than what he was used to. Every symbol had to be carefully copied down exactly as it appeared, and all his little shorthand tricks to write things down faster were absolutely useless here. It was more drawing than writing.
He carefully finished one language block and set the scroll down on the bottom of the hot air balloon. He reached up and pulled the rope to let out the air, causing him to descend down below.
Twilight told him to focus on languages made from symbols, the alphabet based ones were useless. It took a while to get used to, but he could distinguish the alphabet based ones by the way they seemed to be made from simpler shapes that repeated more often. He just had to focus on pictures. He didn’t feel like he was the best artist in the world, especially having to work with the strange glyphs.
It was a good thing there was a stack of photographer pegasi down below taking pictures of everything. But Twilight still wanted Spike to handwrite some of these to see if there was some extra meaning gained from reconstructing the symbols.
Spike had seen runes and other magical languages before, but this was beyond that by orders of magnitude. There were so many languages here! He had to have written down over 500 at this point, and had glimpsed at hundreds of thousands. And they just kept coming!
Whoever wrote this message had something important to say to absolutely everyone. And the sender didn’t know what language the receiver would understand, so they just sent everything they could. How many of these languages actually had ponies that spoke them? Equestria only had four languages and two of those were dead.
But the message was coming from… space? So Luna is sending this message? No, Twilight wouldn’t have frantically demanded Spike start writing if this was Luna’s doing.
Spike heard a commotion from down below. He stole a glance and saw that Discord was destroying cameras. Photographer ponies screamed in outrage at their broken equipment.
A few moments later Princess Celestia rushed Twilight out of the library in Canterlot, several scrolls worth of glyphs he had transcribed were burning far down below.
Spike’s stomach lurched and he hid inside the basket.
Princess Celestia and Discord were destroying the message? Why would they destroy it? There was a special knowledge here that somepony demanded that Equestria know about.
He needed to hide the scroll. But how? The main pony he usually sent scrolls too would burn it on the spot. He started rolling up the scroll, not caring that some of the ink hadn’t finished drying yet.
Spike had learned how to control his fire magic to send scrolls to Twilight but… she was down below too. Was there anypony left he could trust to keep it safe?
He quickly scribbled “HIDE THIS!” on the outside of the scroll and readjusted the magic inside of his throat. He held the scroll to his mouth and breathed out a pure white flame.
No sooner had he done so when Discord appeared in the basket with him and every single piece of parchment in the basket caught fire.
“Hey! What are you doing!?” Spike yelled.
“Sorry about all this,” said Discord gesturing to the parade of yellow symbols. “I have a habit of playing with languages and I accidentally wrote too many and they started escaping, y’see?” said Discord with a wry grin. “I’m so sorry you had to see all that.”
“Those are your languages?” asked Spike.
“But of course!” said Discord, removing a top hat from his head and bowing.
“Then why are you destroying them?”
“Oh you know how artists get, Spike!” said Discord, appearing with an easel and paints, some of the glyphs passing beside them displayed on the canvas. “You just can’t show something when it’s not ready! It’s embarrassing! And I can’t say I’ve ever been more embarrassed to see all of these—“ He cringed, but Spike could tell there was a stronger fear behind his expression. “All these rough drafts—all these… sloppy copies. That’s a better term for it. I don’t like ponies seeing them.”
Spike stared at him.
“Sorry about all that! Now do me a favor and make sure that any other copies get destroyed," he said, poking him for emphasis. "This is surely my most embarrassing moment.”
“More embarrassing than getting turned to stone?”
Discord stood rigid for second before glaring and responding in an icy tone. “Yes.”
With a snap of his lion’s paw, he disappeared.
Spike breathed a sigh of relief, and then reached up to let hot air out of the balloon. As he descended, he noticed yellow light beaming through the small gaps in the basket. He looked over and saw that all of Equestria was bathed in a golden glow. The marquees of text zoomed away and Spike could see as he grew closer to the ground that the Celestia’s horn was glowing.
She was moving all of Equestria, and Luna was moving the sun and moon alongside of it.
“What in Equestria…?” Spike whispered to himself.
When Spike reached the ground, there were no more scrolling marquee’s of foreign glyphs erupting out of the ground everywhere. It was just a normal day in Equestria again.
Twilight was in hysterics.
“Celestia burning knowledge!? I mean—who does that!? Well, now we know that Celestia does. She does have that whole sun motif going on, but that doesn’t mean she burns things! Especially not scrolls—I mean they’re practically books—baby books! Things that have the possibility of becoming books someday! Gone!”
Twilight paced up and down the length of her palace library, fuming. Several hours had passed since the marquees had come and gone and it was now late into the night.
“What story did Celestia tell you?” asked Spike.
Twilight instantly froze. She took a deep breath and exhaled for a long time. “Celestia told me that whatever was in those messages could destroy Equestria. An enemy sent them as propaganda and we must not decipher them.”
She stopped pacing and sat down on her haunches.
“That’s a lot more believable than what Discord told me,” said Spike, frowning. “Still, this is really strange.”
“Is she right, Spike?” asked Twilight. “Is there knowledge that could be detrimental if it was known? I always viewed knowledge as something that you always want more and more of. There is absolutely no scenario in which obtaining information is a bad thing. EXCEPT THIS!?”
He frowned. “You got me, Twilight.”
“There’s no point thinking about it anyway, all the research is gone, all the photos are gone. Everything is gone. And Celestia...”
Spike walked over and hugged her. “It’ll be okay, Twilight. Not all hope is lost.”
Twilight tensed up. “What do you mean?”
Spike inhaled in a sharp breath and stepped back. “I mean… I may still have some of the message. But I want you to think it through. Whatever this is has both Celestia and Discord worried. Maybe this isn’t something—“
“Where is it?” asked Twilight, standing up and getting ready to move.
“Are you sure?” asked Spike, staring into her eyes.
Twilight glanced away, thinking about the decision more. “Messages that could destroy Equestria,” she sighed. “They could destroy Equestria— it’s not like they will. I know plenty of spells that could wreck Equestria in awful ways. But having that knowledge isn’t dangerous because I know not to use it.” Twilight looked back into Spike’s eyes. “I want to know.”
Spike disappeared and reappeared a few moments later with a scroll.
“How did you manage to keep that safe from Discord and Celestia?
“I umm…” started Spike sheepishly. “I learned how to send letters to more than just Celestia and you.”
“Oh?” asked Twilight.
“It’s nice to send Rarity letters, too,” said Spike, a blush appearing on his cheeks. “Well anyway, it’s a good thing I learned how to adjust that spell.”
“I’ll say!” said Twilight as she grabbed the scroll with her magic and opened it carefully.
The last block of glyphs at the bottom had been smudged, but the other twenty three sets appeared intact. Twilight excitedly began to look closely at each of the sets of languages, analyzing each in turn.
The scroll only contained pictographic based languages, which were the most useful languages for their purposes. But most of it still looked like gibberish.
There was one set in particular that made the most sense to her:
‼️↩️🚀:⚛🌌〽💢〰.🌌↩️📪📭,⚱⌛💀∞⇔.☀️💭💀.🙏🚀⚛↩️,⏩⭕️💭🎊🌌.
She stared at it for a long time, and then went back and forth, looking at the other languages. Every time she thought she made a discovery, something else seemed to contradict it. Then she remembered that some languages have a word order that is opposite of her own. Languages that start verb first are completely backwards and whatever meaning she thought it had, could be the reverse.
However, most of the languages had symbols that were star and sun related. And then another symbol that looked like something bad or dangerous. And then another symbol that looked… like…
“Spike… does that look like an atom to you?”
Spike gave her a look as if she had just told him to eat dog food. “How am I supposed to know that!?”
“No… I—I’ve seen hypothetical diagrams, I’m sure. Could you check to see if—YES!"
Spike stood bewildered as Twilight’s horn glowed and a few volumes flew off of a shelf. She flipped through the pages until she found the diagram she had wanted. A model of the atom by Star Swirl the Bearded (that stallion got so much done during his life). His diagram looked suspiciously similar to several of the pictograms in various languages on the page.
“Spike, I’m going to start babbling what’ll most likely be random nonsense. Can you write it down?”
“I’ve been doing that for years.”
She almost smacked him with her wing. Almost. She looked back down at the page and attempted to interpret what she saw.
“Something curved arrow something: atom space down something wave. Space curved arrow open closed, something hourglass… death infinity double arrows. Sun cloud death. Something something atom curved arrow, forward circle cloud confetti space.”
She repeated the same exercise with each of the other twenty two languages. After she was done, she breathed a sigh of relief.
“What words did I say the most often?” asked Twilight.
Spike peered over the page. “Hmm… space, star, universe, death, infinity, down, wide. Basically random gibberish.” He shrugged.
“Let’s do that one more time,” said Twilight. “I’ll do more… conjecturing this time.”
“Urgent from something: atoms space decreasing something. Space from open close, something slowly death infinite expand. Sun cloud death. Please atom return from, send whole clouds party space.”
She kept going through each of the languages, conjecturing more outlandishly, trying to pick apart the symbols. So many of them made no sense. Perhaps they were body parts of creatures she had never seen? Perhaps they were plants or animals she would never know. One thing remained very constant: the stars. Something was happening to the stars.
She went through this exercise several more times before Spike complained about how late it had gotten.
She steeled herself away from her work and finally agreed to let her mind rest on it.
That night Twilight dreamt about the symbols. Atoms, mass, stuff, objects from stars. Not enough. Stars dying. Stars stretching outward. Stars dying. Ponies dying. Everyone dying. Send back atoms. Save what can be saved.
The symbols shifted in the dream and transformed into stars around her. The stars kept running away from her like fireflies. She was able to catch one, but the rest zipped away. But instead of flying away forever, she could see that all the stars not under her control died and dropped to the floor. She screamed at the stars. Why couldn’t they all just stay in her hooves? She would have protected them. She mourned over the stars, and held tightly onto the one star she had saved.
A message appeared in front of her. It was in the same pictograms, but she felt like she knew what they meant: “give up your star.” She stared at the star held tightly against herself with her hooves and mourned it.
In agony, she finally let the star she was holding go.
To her surprise, all the other stars that had remained dead on the ground started wobbling. The one star she had given up pulled on every dead star and they converged onto a single point in front of her. A singularity of blinding light completely shattered her sense of reality. No sooner had the single point holding infinite stars appeared than they exploded like a firework, sending billions of tiny stars in every direction. There were far more stars now than had been there at the start of her dream.
She looked down at her hooves. Her one star was gone. She had had to sacrifice it in order for all the rest of the stars in the sky to be alive again.
Twilight greeted the morning sun with tears. She knew why Celestia had said this message could destroy Equestria. And she felt so ashamed to admit to herself… that for the sake of the rest of the universe, Equestria had to die. They all had to die. If they didn’t… everyone else that could possibly exist would.
“Uhh… Twilight?” Spike appeared over her. “You don’t look so good.”
“I’m… fine…” she whispered, her voice coming out hoarse.
“You look like…” he stared at her, putting a claw to his chin in concentration, “you need oats this morning! With some tea! And some berries in the oats. How does that sound?”
She grinned feebly, “Thanks Spike.”
After a long breakfast and stewing hard over her dream and the message, Twilight finally spoke up. “I’ll be at Fluttershy’s cottage if you need me.”
Spike stared at her before replying, “You don’t want to keep working on deciphering the message?”
“I…” she tried to begin. “No… not right now. I need to get out of the castle for a bit.”
She thanked Spike for breakfast and trotted down the peaceful lanes of Ponyville. It was such a vibrant, rich town. She knew almost everypony’s name here. Inside every building was a friend. And every blade of grass was a miracle of life.
She took a full hour to make her way to Fluttershy’s cottage. She strolled along smelling flowers, made small talk with acquaintances, basked in the sunlight, and waved hello to everypony she saw.
When she finally reached her destination, she felt like turning back. It was like walking to a gallows, except she was her own executioner.
She gave the door three sharp knocks. The door swung wide open and Discord was lounging on the couch. He took one look at Twilight and immediately tensed up.
Fluttershy came into the room from the back. “Oh hello Twilight, how are you today?”
“I— I need to talk to Discord,” said Twilight. Fluttershy turned to go back. “But I would like you to be here for this, too.”
“Oh… umm… okay,” said Fluttershy sheepishly, before sitting down on the couch next to a very apprehensive Discord.
Twilight sat down on an armchair and breathed in and out. “Discord… I translated the message.”
“NO!” Discord shouted, his voice shook the entire cottage and several of the animals scurried away. “CELESTIA TOLD YOU NOT TO!”
“But I had to know, Discord. I...” her throat clenched. “I had to know.”
“Whatever happened to the ‘faithful student?’” Discord sneered. “Fluttershy, go on outside and work with some animals or something.”
“No,” said Twilight calmly. “I want her here for this. I want her to know the decision you’ve made for Equestria and for the universe.”
Discord brought a paw up to his eyes, trying to hide his own fears. “Well… out with it then. What’s your translation?”
“A notice from the Returners: the total mass of our universe has decreased to below the critical threshold. The universe will turn from being closed to open, and die a slow death in perpetual expansion. All lives and all memories will also die. Please return the mass you have taken away, and send only memories to the new universe.”
Discord stared at her. “How in Tartarus did you manage that!?”
“Am I correct?”
“Every word,” Discord said through gritted teeth.
“Then that means we can’t stay here.”
“I KNOW what it means! But I’m not going to do as it says. I like Equestria! I like all of my friends! And I like Fluttershy and I’m not giving all it UP FOR SOME STUPID UNIVERSE I ESCAPED FROM IN THE FIRST PLACE! YOU HEAR ME!”
“Discord?” asked Fluttershy timidly. “What’s going on? What does all that even mean?”
Discord closed his eyes and was silent for a few moments. When he finally opened them again the words spilled out.
“The universe is a cold, unforgiving place, Fluttershy. Every alien race wants every other alien race dead. And I did EVERYTHING to keep us safe in this disgusting dark forest. I helped in every step of the way for us to safely extrude from ten dimensions down to a paltry two. I constructed black domains to ensure that we would never be noticed. I did everything in my power to keep our civilization alive. And when ALL of that didn’t work, I finally figured out how to construct pocket universes. But to do so I took some mass and a star and I set up a nice cozy universe for everypony to live.
“THIS!” he gestured around at the cottage and beyond. “This is the only safe way to live.”
“But… it's too high of a cost,” added Twilight.
“It’s not too high! What did the universe ever give us!? A billion alien races with a death ray pointed straight at us. That’s what the universe is! Alien races bending the laws of physics and using it as a weapon against us! We owe them nothing!”
“We need to return the mass Discord took from the main universe,” said Twilight. “If we don’t, then that main universe will perpetually expand and die. But if we do, then the mass will collide into a big crunch, form a new big bang, and create a new universe.”
“That’s IF all those lousy alien races ALSO follow through and give up the mass in their own pocket universes. Did you see how many languages passed through? There are millions, perhaps billions of pocket universes out there with their own mass stolen from the main universe. If most don’t agree to sacrifice their lives, then the universe won’t collapse into a big crunch anyway! We might as well live comfortably here!”
“I…” said Fluttershy. “I still don’t understand.”
Twilight started speaking before Discord could say anything. “Fluttershy, would you sacrifice yourself to save a stranger?”
“Of course,” said Fluttershy without hesitation.
Discord’s ears lowered.
“Would you sacrifice yourself to save ten million strangers?”
“Yes,” said Fluttershy, a little confused by the question.
“Would you sacrifice yourself, and all of Equestria, to save an infinite amount of strangers?”
Fluttershy thought about that question a little longer. “I… I think so.”
Discord brought his paw and talons to cover his eyes. All was still for a few moments before Discord erupted. “HOW DARE YOU DO THIS TO FLUTTERSHY! How dare you do this to Equestria, to all of your friends, to absolutely everypony and everything you hold dear! One lousy universe dying permanently and never being born again is no reason to sacrifice everything.”
“You forget the second law of thermodynamics, Discord. ‘The total entropy of an isolated system always increases over time.’ This pocket universe is an isolated system. Equestria and its sun will die eventually too. And we won’t have a main universe to pluck out fresh mass from anymore.”
At this, Discord completely fell apart. Fluttershy held onto him tightly as he cried into her mane.
“No, no, no, no! Please don’t do this to me! I love Fluttershy, I want to be with her, I don’t want to worry about entropy and all that star stuff and dark forests! I just want to be here in Equestria with her and… and…”
"I'm sorry," was all Twilight could say.
After a long time, and after all the tears had been shed, Discord snapped his talons.
Every single atom that existed inside the pocket universe stopped. After a long time Discord unwrapped himself out of Fluttershy’s embrace and went to examine the work to be done.
With a snap of his lion’s paw, he expanded his size to a quarter the size of the pocket universe, and started to tear off the wallpaper magic with its fake stationary stars. The sun and moon started to careen away, but he plucked them out of the sky and set a “group stasis” spell so they wouldn’t stray far from the planet of Equestria.
All in all, tearing things apart was far easier than it had been to create them in the first place. Discord grumbled something about “entropy” to himself, and sighed. He couldn’t bear to do the actual destroying of Equestria himself. The big crunch could handle that. He simply let Equestria and its sun stay frozen.
He hunched over and finally undid what he had done so many eons ago. A rip appeared in the nothingness in front of him, and suddenly all the spacetime in his pocket universe started rushing back into its primordial home. Equestria and its sun followed along with, and Discord let all but a tiny amount of space escape from the pocket.
Discord sat on the planet of Equestria, keeping his giant form intangible so as not to hurt anypony. Not like it mattered anymore anyway.
“Fine universe,” said Discord, defeated. “I hope you’re happy.”
“Thank you,” said a voice.
Discord instinctively covered up Equestria with his own body, coiling around it like a snake would an egg. He had half a mind to cloak Equestria by slowing down the speed of light to the rate of the sun’s gravity and thus turning this area into a black domain.
“Who’s there?” asked Discord.
“Just a Stranger. May I ask how you are storing the memories to be sent to the future?”
Discord peered at Stranger. It appeared to be an orb of light with long gyrating light waves dangling below it like a jellyfish.
“Why? So you can steal it!?” seethed Discord.
“No, I wish to help it be efficient,” said Stranger. "We need as much mass as possible in this universe. You have already made the commitment to die, you have no need to fear me.”
Discord’s ears drooped.
“Okay,” said Discord. “I… I was just going to send a book into the next universe. I can’t think of anything better.”
“A book? That’s not nearly efficient,” said Stranger.
Discord stared at the glowing orb and shrugged. “What would you do?”
"A single hydrogen atom should do the trick."
“An atom!?” balked Discord. “What am I supposed to do with that!?”
“Create a backup copy of your pocket universe of course. A whole atom should be sufficient.”
Discord raised an eyebrow.
“Let me show you,” said Stranger.
Discord watched as Stranger plucked a single hydrogen atom off of Equestria’s sun. “The trick is to teach the electron on the atom to remember a long pattern. From that point on, the electron will continue to follow that same pattern indefinitely. It can be stored in the pocket universe, and then released after the next universe’s big bang has cooled off a little.”
“And what exactly is being stored in that electron?”
“Everything,” said Stranger.
Discord watched in awe as Stranger made the atom crisscross back and forth over a frozen griffon in Equestria below. Once the atom was done scanning, the electron’s orbital pattern shifted rhythmically and could be reinterpreted as organic printing instructions. A second griffon absolutely identical to the one below started to be “printed.”
“You can fit that much information on a single hydrogen atom?”
Stranger glowed a bit brighter for a moment. “Yes. It’s not that difficult really. You could even store it in the mathematical constants of the next universe. Like the culture from the last universe that stored themselves in π in this universe. ”
Discord’s eyes darted back to Stranger. “What’s the catch?”
“No catch,” said Stranger.
“No really, what’s the catch?” demanded Discord.
Stranger said nothing for a moment before responding. “This universe, and the last universe’s Dark Forest psychology has been deplorable. Please, when your civilization’s copy enters the next universe, do not ‘shoot first and ask questions later.’ I’ve gotten to know a lot of worlds in my travels. The next universe doesn’t need to be as dark as this one has been.”
Discord nodded.
“Thank you,” said Stranger. The bright light went to leave, but Discord called out to it at the last second.
A single penetrating idea came to his mind that Fluttershy would have liked. “Do you need help?” asked Discord.
“With what?” asked Stranger.
“With telling other civilizations. I’m sure not all of them know that you can save a back-up atom that will recreate the memories of everyone. I could help you find others.”
“I…” said Stranger. “I would like that very much.”
“I’ve shown you everything you need to know,” said Stranger. “Now watch and make sure that your atom is working.”
Stranger flew off, and Discord patiently waited as the atom gathered all the information, saving himself for last.
After the atom finished gathering everything by zipping back and forth through Discord’s brain, it finally stopped. He reset the atom and it started working in backwards order, forming another Discord. He stopped the atom, reset it, and hid it inside the pocket universe. Then he set the pocket universe to open up again when the big bang had cooled off.
Everything was in place.
Discord stared at the frozen Equestria. They would all die soon enough, but he wouldn’t let this version of them know about it. He left Equestria to remain frozen.
He flew far, far away, sending that same message that had caused all this in the first place, adding more languages to the marquee as he found them. He helped countless cultures set up backups of themselves and he asked them nicely not to continue the Dark Forest psychology into the next cycle.
It’s what Fluttershy would have wanted.
The first thing Discord noticed were the stars. There were so many of them. In all of his existence, he had never seen this many and so brightly before.
The atom had successfully escaped the pocket universe and was already well on its way to printing a copy of everyone in Equestria. Discord quickly searched for a nice planet, and a good sun. There were so many to pick from in this primordial universe. He finally picked a small one and started manipulating it to be like Equestria.
He kept everyone that the atom replicated in stasis, and spent a long time adjusting everything to be just right.
When all was done, he flew down to Fluttershy’s cottage, held her in his arms just as he had left her, and snapped his talons.
Oh yes, further spoilers for Remembrance of Earth's Past below:
One nitpick : IMO you should have Twilight interpret the message in a paraphrased form; she has pictograms to go from after all, from what I see. And paraphrasing it would let you put a pony spin on it.
Discord being a 10th dimensional entity prior to earlier Dark Forest attacks is an interesting idea - though that does make me wonder; story seems to imply he escaped multi-dimensional collapse but that Equestria may be a recreation of his civilization on a 3 dimensional scale. Would that be correct?
At any rate, turning Equestria into some sort of reverse uber-sophon is certainly interesting. I think this is a decent story, but does require knowledge of Death's End to really understand - you never call out what the Dark Forest is so a reader unfamiliar with the parent work is going to be lost.
Lastly, there's the matter of the Stranger - I presume it's another higher dimensional entity that escapes dimensional collapse into a pocket universe as Discord did. It's an interesting enough idea, although you could arguably posit that once the collapse hits a certain point Discord could retreat to pocket-Equestria and wait. Potentially, if done right, he could do that with everypony, though really at that point if he's leaving them frozen but alive in 3D space - well, I suppose the prime universe had to undergo 2d collapse so that wouldn't quite work, and so then you get into the Star Trek transporter problem of 'Who is real?'
In the end, well - like Remembrance itself, it unsettles, but that is mostly because I fear the universe may well use Dark Forest cosmology; I can only hope that it doesn't because it bodes ill for all life, and ultimately I look at it as something of a weak prisoner's dilemma; sure, you win in one scenario, but the universe is an infinitely iterated dilemma and on an infinite scale, Dark Forest is bad for everyone.
One nitpick : IMO you should have Twilight interpret the message in a paraphrased form; she has pictograms to go from after all, from what I see. And paraphrasing it would let you put a pony spin on it.
Discord being a 10th dimensional entity prior to earlier Dark Forest attacks is an interesting idea - though that does make me wonder; story seems to imply he escaped multi-dimensional collapse but that Equestria may be a recreation of his civilization on a 3 dimensional scale. Would that be correct?
At any rate, turning Equestria into some sort of reverse uber-sophon is certainly interesting. I think this is a decent story, but does require knowledge of Death's End to really understand - you never call out what the Dark Forest is so a reader unfamiliar with the parent work is going to be lost.
Lastly, there's the matter of the Stranger - I presume it's another higher dimensional entity that escapes dimensional collapse into a pocket universe as Discord did. It's an interesting enough idea, although you could arguably posit that once the collapse hits a certain point Discord could retreat to pocket-Equestria and wait. Potentially, if done right, he could do that with everypony, though really at that point if he's leaving them frozen but alive in 3D space - well, I suppose the prime universe had to undergo 2d collapse so that wouldn't quite work, and so then you get into the Star Trek transporter problem of 'Who is real?'
In the end, well - like Remembrance itself, it unsettles, but that is mostly because I fear the universe may well use Dark Forest cosmology; I can only hope that it doesn't because it bodes ill for all life, and ultimately I look at it as something of a weak prisoner's dilemma; sure, you win in one scenario, but the universe is an infinitely iterated dilemma and on an infinite scale, Dark Forest is bad for everyone.
Well, I don't really care about spoilers, because I'm highly unlikely to read Cixin Liu's stories. What does worry me is just how much of this story is based on Liu's work? Is this essentially a ponified version of The Three Body Problem, or does it only draw certain inspirations from it?
Without knowing more, I'm not in a good position to judge this story's merits as an actual story. I can only go by construction and technical aspects.
Without knowing more, I'm not in a good position to judge this story's merits as an actual story. I can only go by construction and technical aspects.
Huh. Spoilers for a sci-fi trilogy I’ve never heard of until now? I think I’ll risk it.
A fascinating concept all around, though as >>Cold in Gardez notes, I’m not sure where the source material ends and your own ideas begin. That’s the risk with crossovers; it’s hard for an audience familiar with only one half to appreciate the comingling. Given that, I think I need to abstain on this one. Again, I did enjoy it.
A fascinating concept all around, though as >>Cold in Gardez notes, I’m not sure where the source material ends and your own ideas begin. That’s the risk with crossovers; it’s hard for an audience familiar with only one half to appreciate the comingling. Given that, I think I need to abstain on this one. Again, I did enjoy it.
>>Cold in Gardez
>>FanOfMostEverything
Seeing as I have read it, the spoilers in here relate to the cosmology of the Remembrance... series, as noted, specifically the giant war that has engulfed the entire universe for billions of years. It's a story where Equestria is set IN the universe, but the story itself isn't a retelling; the only plot elements common to both are the cosmology/war, and the message that precipitates conflict in this story. The stranger is an entirely new creation, and preserving Equestria for the new universe is as well.
So, really, I'd call it crossover fanfiction between Remembrance and My Little Pony and it may well be the first such work, and blends the cynical Maoist thought of Remembrance with the constant hope for betterment of pony.
Also even if you read this, Three Body and The Dark Forest aren't really spoilered much at all; the one this really uses major event's from is the third book, Death's End, but again it's more revelations about how the universe works / its history, than like, a ponified reinterpretation of Lady and the Tiger.
>>FanOfMostEverything
Seeing as I have read it, the spoilers in here relate to the cosmology of the Remembrance... series, as noted, specifically the giant war that has engulfed the entire universe for billions of years. It's a story where Equestria is set IN the universe, but the story itself isn't a retelling; the only plot elements common to both are the cosmology/war, and the message that precipitates conflict in this story. The stranger is an entirely new creation, and preserving Equestria for the new universe is as well.
So, really, I'd call it crossover fanfiction between Remembrance and My Little Pony and it may well be the first such work, and blends the cynical Maoist thought of Remembrance with the constant hope for betterment of pony.
Also even if you read this, Three Body and The Dark Forest aren't really spoilered much at all; the one this really uses major event's from is the third book, Death's End, but again it's more revelations about how the universe works / its history, than like, a ponified reinterpretation of Lady and the Tiger.
>>Morning Sun
Oh! Well, in that case, I'll happily give this a rating.
Sorry for my hesitance, author. I wanted more information before I felt I could judge this fairly.
Oh! Well, in that case, I'll happily give this a rating.
Sorry for my hesitance, author. I wanted more information before I felt I could judge this fairly.
So this was a thing? I couldn’t help but feel this story lost it’s place with just complex of an idea the entire plotline was. When I think of “The Darkest Hour” I wanna actually feel some dark. Not necessarily grim and morbid, but something that gives off that feeling of hope and despair. While this piece did focus on everything being lost all at once it really doesn’t do the justice of “an end to all things.
POSITIVES
Intricate - It’s very hard to predict the outcome of what was really going on. With what was barely answered you get a good grasp of a reader’s attention to continue onwards with the details of your story. I wanted to know more and more about what was actually going on, but one predictable thing kept crossing my mind. When dealing with aliens and universal messages from space, it always spells out “doomsday”. With that in mind it came to no surprise that eventually the land was going to end up in oblivion. We learn that Equestria is actually a planet and that somehow Discord is God himself, or at least some omega being that can defy the very nature of the universe along with other omega beings? Aside from these facts you get this sense of curiosity on why and how the world is going to end. Since there’s usually a reason behind killing off a very life abundant planet. Which we get that in the end, though once everything is figured out it feels like the story and it’s entertaining pieces cut short and just end there. This piece could have the very same effect on it’s readers without it’s ending being there by fading everything to black in a pony’s perspective of life. This can emphasize the termination of said life and show that the world was sacrifice and still keep that trait of curiosity intact.The ending just didn’t really make me feel or learn anything, so it felt lacking of something. Though it’s obvious the high point is finding out the reason behind the message and why this world needed to be destroyed.
Science Fiction - I felt that the interstellar ending of creation and destruction was very well done. It’s very hard to picture and grasp, but adds an amazing sense of creativity coming from the author. I imagine that this has been an idea of yours from some time or you took inspiration from another creative piece. I enjoyed it, but it felt overshadowed by the mystery of the floating rays of words that herald in the coming of an end to all things. The dark hidden secret behind those sent extraterrestrial letters clearly shined above the awe and wonder of how it would be to create a completely new universe. Since we also know that Discord was only creating a copy it left very little to imagine. The use of atoms, the veil of the night sky, and dimensional shifting adds for a omnipotent story. This being MLP seems like it didn’t mix very well. I would have loved to see this part of your mind paint brand new images in my head to give me endless possibilities for a non MLP story. I really think you have the makings of creating a different piece and add that “creator of the universe” spin on it. I assure you you’d do remarkable on creating such a story.
NEGATIVES
Motives - I don’t see a lot of motives behind the events in this story. It often makes me ponder “why” in the middle of a sentence when you try to explain something that isn’t originally from the series. In fact one of my biggest concerns is asking “why” Discord has been so calm in this story. Even while being completely distraught, we have managed to see that Discord really never loses his wacky sense on things around him. Also why would he need a pocket universe? Had he foreseen his relationship with Fluttershy, since he stole that mass of the universe eons ago? Who is trying to destroy Equestria and why? I doubt a race of sentient animals that don’t have access into space yet would be a good target for anything other than resources. They’re also not entirely defenseless with all that magic. This just makes it seem less believable than it already is. So I just couldn’t see any of this happening within the universe we’ve come to love. Content in a story should be supported by why and how. Things needed to be fully explained and hashed out before you can present them. Or else you end up with nothing but confusion, and as complex as this piece is you only seem to deepen the hole necessary to fill in to keep your story stable in the eyes of its readers.
Focus - Who is the main character for the story? Discord? Twilight? I actually had much more interest in Spike, being his sly self, or Stranger, being the ever powerful wise space jellyfish. My point is that you bounced around too much on characters during events. We don’t really seem to follow one particular person and therefore we do not create that relationship needed for character and reader to feel for these pieces in the story. I would have love getting to know Discord’s exact emotions rather than guessing it along with Fluttershy and Celestia. I wanted to feel bad for him, because he had to tear down all his hard work. But none of it had anything to back up that Discord had a goal in mind. None of it supported the idea that Discord was an unsung hero long ago by isolating the planet he came to love. (Which didn’t he try to create a chaotic personal playground out of that very world?) It just doesn’t help that I’m clueless on what the character wanted or felt and then had little to no reason to doing it other than, one reason. So I can’t buy it like it is. Discord had a lot of reasons for stopping the 6 from imprisoning him again. Discord had a lot of reasons to befriend Fluttershy and more often than not to save her or stand up for her. I just don’t see these same outlines outlined for me within this story and it’s rather aggravating, because I want to.
It wasn’t disappointing, but I think it would have done a lot better being non MLP. As big of a set of fans as we are in this fandom, I didn’t think we could be offset on forgetting characters. That’s not to say the author didn’t grasp the characters right. I just think the artist on this piece did some better than others, when there should be a balance to them all. We don’t get a main character clearly shown to us and then there’s the ever expanding question of “the world is going to die?” Which was pretty much the most delightful trait of the story in my opinion. Its not a bad read but I did wish the author here would have explored more on his content to make it smoother. I don’t really like it when two ideas collide, because it takes much more work making both of them sensible with each other.
POSITIVES
Intricate - It’s very hard to predict the outcome of what was really going on. With what was barely answered you get a good grasp of a reader’s attention to continue onwards with the details of your story. I wanted to know more and more about what was actually going on, but one predictable thing kept crossing my mind. When dealing with aliens and universal messages from space, it always spells out “doomsday”. With that in mind it came to no surprise that eventually the land was going to end up in oblivion. We learn that Equestria is actually a planet and that somehow Discord is God himself, or at least some omega being that can defy the very nature of the universe along with other omega beings? Aside from these facts you get this sense of curiosity on why and how the world is going to end. Since there’s usually a reason behind killing off a very life abundant planet. Which we get that in the end, though once everything is figured out it feels like the story and it’s entertaining pieces cut short and just end there. This piece could have the very same effect on it’s readers without it’s ending being there by fading everything to black in a pony’s perspective of life. This can emphasize the termination of said life and show that the world was sacrifice and still keep that trait of curiosity intact.The ending just didn’t really make me feel or learn anything, so it felt lacking of something. Though it’s obvious the high point is finding out the reason behind the message and why this world needed to be destroyed.
Science Fiction - I felt that the interstellar ending of creation and destruction was very well done. It’s very hard to picture and grasp, but adds an amazing sense of creativity coming from the author. I imagine that this has been an idea of yours from some time or you took inspiration from another creative piece. I enjoyed it, but it felt overshadowed by the mystery of the floating rays of words that herald in the coming of an end to all things. The dark hidden secret behind those sent extraterrestrial letters clearly shined above the awe and wonder of how it would be to create a completely new universe. Since we also know that Discord was only creating a copy it left very little to imagine. The use of atoms, the veil of the night sky, and dimensional shifting adds for a omnipotent story. This being MLP seems like it didn’t mix very well. I would have loved to see this part of your mind paint brand new images in my head to give me endless possibilities for a non MLP story. I really think you have the makings of creating a different piece and add that “creator of the universe” spin on it. I assure you you’d do remarkable on creating such a story.
NEGATIVES
Motives - I don’t see a lot of motives behind the events in this story. It often makes me ponder “why” in the middle of a sentence when you try to explain something that isn’t originally from the series. In fact one of my biggest concerns is asking “why” Discord has been so calm in this story. Even while being completely distraught, we have managed to see that Discord really never loses his wacky sense on things around him. Also why would he need a pocket universe? Had he foreseen his relationship with Fluttershy, since he stole that mass of the universe eons ago? Who is trying to destroy Equestria and why? I doubt a race of sentient animals that don’t have access into space yet would be a good target for anything other than resources. They’re also not entirely defenseless with all that magic. This just makes it seem less believable than it already is. So I just couldn’t see any of this happening within the universe we’ve come to love. Content in a story should be supported by why and how. Things needed to be fully explained and hashed out before you can present them. Or else you end up with nothing but confusion, and as complex as this piece is you only seem to deepen the hole necessary to fill in to keep your story stable in the eyes of its readers.
Focus - Who is the main character for the story? Discord? Twilight? I actually had much more interest in Spike, being his sly self, or Stranger, being the ever powerful wise space jellyfish. My point is that you bounced around too much on characters during events. We don’t really seem to follow one particular person and therefore we do not create that relationship needed for character and reader to feel for these pieces in the story. I would have love getting to know Discord’s exact emotions rather than guessing it along with Fluttershy and Celestia. I wanted to feel bad for him, because he had to tear down all his hard work. But none of it had anything to back up that Discord had a goal in mind. None of it supported the idea that Discord was an unsung hero long ago by isolating the planet he came to love. (Which didn’t he try to create a chaotic personal playground out of that very world?) It just doesn’t help that I’m clueless on what the character wanted or felt and then had little to no reason to doing it other than, one reason. So I can’t buy it like it is. Discord had a lot of reasons for stopping the 6 from imprisoning him again. Discord had a lot of reasons to befriend Fluttershy and more often than not to save her or stand up for her. I just don’t see these same outlines outlined for me within this story and it’s rather aggravating, because I want to.
It wasn’t disappointing, but I think it would have done a lot better being non MLP. As big of a set of fans as we are in this fandom, I didn’t think we could be offset on forgetting characters. That’s not to say the author didn’t grasp the characters right. I just think the artist on this piece did some better than others, when there should be a balance to them all. We don’t get a main character clearly shown to us and then there’s the ever expanding question of “the world is going to die?” Which was pretty much the most delightful trait of the story in my opinion. Its not a bad read but I did wish the author here would have explored more on his content to make it smoother. I don’t really like it when two ideas collide, because it takes much more work making both of them sensible with each other.
>>Remedyfortheheart
Basically every answer to your question is part of the book inspiring this - Death's End by Cixin Liu. And, well, explaining all of it fully would basically double or more the length of the story, because you need to then explain Dark Forest cosmology as well as dimensional collapse MAD scenarios.
Basically every answer to your question is part of the book inspiring this - Death's End by Cixin Liu. And, well, explaining all of it fully would basically double or more the length of the story, because you need to then explain Dark Forest cosmology as well as dimensional collapse MAD scenarios.
No time for a full review, but the main thing that leapt into my head while reading: why is it that the process of returning matter from Equestria's pocket dimension required killing everyone? I mean, the problem that they were solving -- acquiring enough matter to change the curvature of the universe and force a Big Crunch -- takes place on cosmic timescales, billions of years. Even if the concern was that being in realspace meant they were going to get invaded by some of these other murderous aliens, I can't see how that's a "right this minute" catastrophe, but the story kind of requires a "right this minute" catastrophe for the impact of its choice.
Beyond that, this is surprising and thought-provoking, though I can't help but feel like I'm missing a lot that would have required reading the crossover source to understand. The large expansion that >>Morning Sun notes may be at least partially necessary for context -- not to give us all of the universe background, which is mostly irrelevant to your story, but enough to better explain the stakes that you set out.
Tier: Almost There
Beyond that, this is surprising and thought-provoking, though I can't help but feel like I'm missing a lot that would have required reading the crossover source to understand. The large expansion that >>Morning Sun notes may be at least partially necessary for context -- not to give us all of the universe background, which is mostly irrelevant to your story, but enough to better explain the stakes that you set out.
Tier: Almost There
Horizon hit on the same thought that I had about the immediacy of the problem, but I'd like to add to it that, if Twilight feels comfortable enough bringing Fluttershy in on this discussion, then there's no reason for her not to bring in her other friends. Especially if, as the story suggests, she's taking the walk to the cottage knowing that she is about to die. If she's cool with saying goodbye to, what, Roseluck? Lickety Split? Some other no-name background pony?
Then why wouldn't she take the time to say goodbye to Rarity? Or Rainbow Dash?
I get a cosmic horror vibe from this, and I'm down with that. I'm also glad that you took the time to explain the basics of the conflict in terms that even a dumdum like me could understand. But I'm in agreement with the other reviewers that there's content/context from the book series this derives from that isn't explained to the reader, and that can lock a lot of people out of fully understanding or appreciating the scope of things.
In all, enjoyable and ambitious.
Then why wouldn't she take the time to say goodbye to Rarity? Or Rainbow Dash?
I get a cosmic horror vibe from this, and I'm down with that. I'm also glad that you took the time to explain the basics of the conflict in terms that even a dumdum like me could understand. But I'm in agreement with the other reviewers that there's content/context from the book series this derives from that isn't explained to the reader, and that can lock a lot of people out of fully understanding or appreciating the scope of things.
In all, enjoyable and ambitious.
>>horizon
>>Posh
I can answer this one too! Pocket universes in Remembrance chronology pass time at a different rate than the main universe - as in, exponentially slower. Also, not returning the matter immediately increases the risks of a big crunch not happening, since that gives the universe more time to expand - too long, and well, yea.
>>Posh
I can answer this one too! Pocket universes in Remembrance chronology pass time at a different rate than the main universe - as in, exponentially slower. Also, not returning the matter immediately increases the risks of a big crunch not happening, since that gives the universe more time to expand - too long, and well, yea.
>>Morning Sun These are vital details that should go into the next draft.
Pretty please.
And thank you.
Pretty please.
And thank you.
I only have a passing familiarity with The Three Body Problem and its sequels, so I'm just going to let other people judge this story's aspects as a crossover.
Based on what I see, you've got a pretty interesting mystery that widens its scope in a way that, while unexpected, is certainly not unwelcome. Also, the ideas presented are pretty interesting.
Still, I'm not quite sure how well Discord fits the role he's given. I mean, if he was the all-powerful creator of this universe, how in the heck did the events of "Return of Harmony" even happen? And honestly, for a lot of the story he doesn't really feel like himself. In the show, even when Discord is frightened, angry, or confused, he's always spitting out sardonic remarks and wry half-jokes.
Pacing-wise, things feel a tiny bit weird as well. We get a bunch of POV shifts, which always makes me stop and go "huh?". Celestia's bits also seem like they're preparing her for an important role in the story, but she drops out entirely a few paragraphs later. And the last few scenes are definitely shift the speed of the story dramatically. The most stuff happens in these scenes, but with very few words. And then the story kinda just ends.
Overall, you've done a good job of presenting these concepts and making me think about them, but I find myself having a hard time caring about these characters or their problems. The central conflict and the characters' reactions feel theoretical and evanescent rather than concretely emotional, which makes the piece as a whole feel less like a story more like a idea-bearing vehicle. And from the looks of the conversation, a lot of these ideas seem to be borrowed ones, so overall I'm just not sure what I got out of this one.
Based on what I see, you've got a pretty interesting mystery that widens its scope in a way that, while unexpected, is certainly not unwelcome. Also, the ideas presented are pretty interesting.
Still, I'm not quite sure how well Discord fits the role he's given. I mean, if he was the all-powerful creator of this universe, how in the heck did the events of "Return of Harmony" even happen? And honestly, for a lot of the story he doesn't really feel like himself. In the show, even when Discord is frightened, angry, or confused, he's always spitting out sardonic remarks and wry half-jokes.
Pacing-wise, things feel a tiny bit weird as well. We get a bunch of POV shifts, which always makes me stop and go "huh?". Celestia's bits also seem like they're preparing her for an important role in the story, but she drops out entirely a few paragraphs later. And the last few scenes are definitely shift the speed of the story dramatically. The most stuff happens in these scenes, but with very few words. And then the story kinda just ends.
Overall, you've done a good job of presenting these concepts and making me think about them, but I find myself having a hard time caring about these characters or their problems. The central conflict and the characters' reactions feel theoretical and evanescent rather than concretely emotional, which makes the piece as a whole feel less like a story more like a idea-bearing vehicle. And from the looks of the conversation, a lot of these ideas seem to be borrowed ones, so overall I'm just not sure what I got out of this one.
First of all, I have read The Three-Body Problem and The Dark Forest, but I haven't gotten to Death's End yet. I think that they are interesting books and I found them compelling enough to keep reading, but I didn't find them incredibly enjoyable. (Interestingly enough, that's basically how I feel about all the stories I've read this round too.) I am very conscious of the fact that my opinions on that series colored my opinions of this story, but I'll try to be objective. I do think that this story stands on its own well enough, though others would be better judges of that.
On the whole, I thought this story was pretty good. But there were a few problems that really hurt this story for me. To be fair, I suspect that some of them might be problems ported over from Death's End.
First, there's the message. It seems like it was almost designed to cause drama, especially since we later learn that Stranger has a way to just get around all the problems it causes. If the message had said "we have a way to save everything," then even Discord probably would have agreed, as we later see.
And then there's the fact that Twilight somehow perfectly translated to message, which isn't really explained.
Second, I feel like Equestria Girls kind of ruins this entire thing. The easiest explanation is just that Discord created both Equestria's planet and EqG's planet, whether in the same pocket universe or two different ones, and EqG's just never got mentioned in this story. The other explanation is that there are alternate dimensions out there, and I doubt that the ponies would be the only ones to discover them. And we know that every species in this universe is perfectly happy to destroy every other species in order to survive, so they should have no problems with just sucking matter out of an alternate dimension to save their universe.
I also kind of want to see a sequel where Sunset starts wondering why she hasn't heard from Twilight in a while, so she goes over to Equestria and finds everything frozen.
Third, what benefit does being saved in a mathematical constant even have? Clearly it didn't do much for that pi culture. This is a minor point, but it does lead to me wondering why this process of sending cultures forward in atoms hasn't been going on since infinity.
I do think this is one of the best stories I've read so far, and it will be at or near the top of my slate. It just didn't quite work for me.
On the whole, I thought this story was pretty good. But there were a few problems that really hurt this story for me. To be fair, I suspect that some of them might be problems ported over from Death's End.
First, there's the message. It seems like it was almost designed to cause drama, especially since we later learn that Stranger has a way to just get around all the problems it causes. If the message had said "we have a way to save everything," then even Discord probably would have agreed, as we later see.
And then there's the fact that Twilight somehow perfectly translated to message, which isn't really explained.
Second, I feel like Equestria Girls kind of ruins this entire thing. The easiest explanation is just that Discord created both Equestria's planet and EqG's planet, whether in the same pocket universe or two different ones, and EqG's just never got mentioned in this story. The other explanation is that there are alternate dimensions out there, and I doubt that the ponies would be the only ones to discover them. And we know that every species in this universe is perfectly happy to destroy every other species in order to survive, so they should have no problems with just sucking matter out of an alternate dimension to save their universe.
I also kind of want to see a sequel where Sunset starts wondering why she hasn't heard from Twilight in a while, so she goes over to Equestria and finds everything frozen.
Third, what benefit does being saved in a mathematical constant even have? Clearly it didn't do much for that pi culture. This is a minor point, but it does lead to me wondering why this process of sending cultures forward in atoms hasn't been going on since infinity.
I do think this is one of the best stories I've read so far, and it will be at or near the top of my slate. It just didn't quite work for me.
Thank you everyone for giving me feedback on "Send Only Memories." I'll be putting this up on FimFiction soon.
However, I've made several changes based on people's suggestions.
If someone would look over the changes I've made, I'd appreciate it.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/153QSZKBAcW0C5lFo-L7sxcUtiUB9hzXNaLQ21mqM624/edit
Changelog: Celestia's scene is now from Discord's perspective, which drops down the perspective switches from four characters to three. Discord has a lot more "character" for lack of a better term for it. And there's a lot more Stranger backstory. The Spike and Twilight parts are relatively untouched (except for mentioning that Twilight visits some of her friends on the way to Fluttershy's cottage).
However, I've made several changes based on people's suggestions.
If someone would look over the changes I've made, I'd appreciate it.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/153QSZKBAcW0C5lFo-L7sxcUtiUB9hzXNaLQ21mqM624/edit
Changelog: Celestia's scene is now from Discord's perspective, which drops down the perspective switches from four characters to three. Discord has a lot more "character" for lack of a better term for it. And there's a lot more Stranger backstory. The Spike and Twilight parts are relatively untouched (except for mentioning that Twilight visits some of her friends on the way to Fluttershy's cottage).
Thanks for everyone that commented! If more than one person thought something was a problem, I made a bigger effort to change that in the next draft.
>>Morning Sun
Yeah, I wanted to have some solid basis for the crossover. But you're right. It's changed in the next version.
Yep! :D
Well... (I'm debating on this still), I was thinking of Equestria as a 2D universe. Discord does several tricks to make it feel like 3D, but it is actually 2D. (And the war that Discord initially tried to escape from led him to drop down Equestria into lower and lower dimensions, and not even a Black Domain completely protected them at certain times)
I kind of feel like this is a problem with Death's End. The story ends before this happens.
I added a bunch of backstory to Stranger to explain why this won't work.
Thank you SO MUCH for helping explain this story in the comments because I wasn't able to.
>>FanOfMostEverything
:D
>>Remedyfortheheart
See... the end the Three Body trilogy did that. I kind of have a berserk button when it comes to stories not ending happily. I demand a happy ending. And if there isn't one, I'll make it myself. And stories I write which don't have happy endings, end up with "pretend" happy endings, even though everything still sucks.
I understand where you're coming from though.
I think you'd love—
Oh. Yeah... I have that problem a lot.
I'm much more comfortable writing original fiction. But for some reason I only feel "motivated" when it's pony fiction :/
I do need to work on some original fiction... I have a lot of ideas on existence design, cosmology, eschatology, and the duration of eternity. I just need to uhh... do it.
I think I did a much better job on this in the second draft.
That's understandable. Thank you so much for your thoughts!
>>horizon
Thank you! Your thoughts mean a lot to me.
>>Posh
My original reasoning was that she wouldn't want to talk to them because she would have a hard time not letting them in on the secret. (And I really didn't want to write in any more characters than I had to).
But I did add a line in the new version suggesting she visited more of her friends.
Done.
>>Bachiavellian
Thanks for the feedback. I was wondering whether or not to just axe that scene during my first draft. In the current draft that scene is from Discord's perspective, so there's less POV shifting.
This is one of my failings as an author. I think in terms of ideas rather than characters, and the idea is always my go-to starting point for stories.
>>The_Letter_J
What? Nooooo.... you're the one person that shouldn't have read it D:
Sorry.
Stranger gives some reasons why the message is the way it is in the 2nd draft.
YEP! Not touching Equestria Girls with a ten foot pole.
While writing this thing, Stranger just said that line and I was all: "WWWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
This is now part of Stranger's backstory.
And also, this is a really good starting point for a short story/novel. No really. Here me out. Imagine, if you will, artificial intelligence research gets pretty strong. One branch of the research (of many) is into calculating pi. The numbers actually act as code that will SQL inject into the Artificial Intelligence. The AI gets stuffed with an initial blast of a single member of this alien race, and then once the first AI gets infected, more members of race spread to more AIs as more digits of pi are calculated.
This is far fetched, because computer systems across species are different. BUT assuming that the next universe cycle will have trillions of possible intelligent life, and that this pi decimal SQL injection thing only needs to work ONCE, they have a pretty good shot of transferring over to the next universe cycle.
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Also, no one commented on this. But I have to point it out as I laughed for three days straight after it happened:
SAVAGE
>>Morning Sun
One nitpick : IMO you should have Twilight interpret the message in a paraphrased form; she has pictograms to go from after all, from what I see. And paraphrasing it would let you put a pony spin on it.
Yeah, I wanted to have some solid basis for the crossover. But you're right. It's changed in the next version.
story seems to imply he escaped multi-dimensional collapse but that Equestria may be a recreation of his civilization on a 3 dimensional scale. Would that be correct?
Yep! :D
Well... (I'm debating on this still), I was thinking of Equestria as a 2D universe. Discord does several tricks to make it feel like 3D, but it is actually 2D. (And the war that Discord initially tried to escape from led him to drop down Equestria into lower and lower dimensions, and not even a Black Domain completely protected them at certain times)
It's an interesting enough idea, although you could arguably posit that once the collapse hits a certain point Discord could retreat to pocket-Equestria and wait. Potentially, if done right, he could do that with everypony,
I kind of feel like this is a problem with Death's End. The story ends before this happens.
I added a bunch of backstory to Stranger to explain why this won't work.
Thank you SO MUCH for helping explain this story in the comments because I wasn't able to.
>>FanOfMostEverything
Again, I did enjoy it.
:D
>>Remedyfortheheart
This piece could have the very same effect on it’s readers without it’s ending being there by fading everything to black in a pony’s perspective of life. This can emphasize the termination of said life and show that the world was sacrifice and still keep that trait of curiosity intact.
See... the end the Three Body trilogy did that. I kind of have a berserk button when it comes to stories not ending happily. I demand a happy ending. And if there isn't one, I'll make it myself. And stories I write which don't have happy endings, end up with "pretend" happy endings, even though everything still sucks.
I understand where you're coming from though.
I really think you have the makings of creating a different piece and add that “creator of the universe” spin on it. I assure you you’d do remarkable on creating such a story.
I think you'd love—
This being MLP seems like it didn’t mix very well.
Oh. Yeah... I have that problem a lot.
I'm much more comfortable writing original fiction. But for some reason I only feel "motivated" when it's pony fiction :/
I do need to work on some original fiction... I have a lot of ideas on existence design, cosmology, eschatology, and the duration of eternity. I just need to uhh... do it.
In fact one of my biggest concerns is asking “why” Discord has been so calm in this story. ...I would have love getting to know Discord’s exact emotions rather than guessing it along with Fluttershy and Celestia. I wanted to feel bad for him, because he had to tear down all his hard work.
I think I did a much better job on this in the second draft.
I don’t really like it when two ideas collide, because it takes much more work making both of them sensible with each other.
That's understandable. Thank you so much for your thoughts!
>>horizon
Beyond that, this is surprising and thought-provoking
Thank you! Your thoughts mean a lot to me.
>>Posh
Then why wouldn't she take the time to say goodbye to Rarity? Or Rainbow Dash?
My original reasoning was that she wouldn't want to talk to them because she would have a hard time not letting them in on the secret. (And I really didn't want to write in any more characters than I had to).
But I did add a line in the new version suggesting she visited more of her friends.
These are vital details that should go into the next draft.
Pretty please.
Done.
>>Bachiavellian
Celestia's bits also seem like they're preparing her for an important role in the story, but she drops out entirely a few paragraphs later.
Thanks for the feedback. I was wondering whether or not to just axe that scene during my first draft. In the current draft that scene is from Discord's perspective, so there's less POV shifting.
which makes the piece as a whole feel less like a story more like a idea-bearing vehicle
This is one of my failings as an author. I think in terms of ideas rather than characters, and the idea is always my go-to starting point for stories.
>>The_Letter_J
First of all, I have read The Three-Body Problem and The Dark Forest, but I haven't gotten to Death's End yet.
What? Nooooo.... you're the one person that shouldn't have read it D:
Sorry.
If the message had said "we have a way to save everything," then even Discord probably would have agreed, as we later see.
Stranger gives some reasons why the message is the way it is in the 2nd draft.
Second, I feel like Equestria Girls kind of ruins this entire thing.
YEP! Not touching Equestria Girls with a ten foot pole.
Third, what benefit does being saved in a mathematical constant even have? Clearly it didn't do much for that pi culture. This is a minor point, but it does lead to me wondering why this process of sending cultures forward in atoms hasn't been going on since infinity.
While writing this thing, Stranger just said that line and I was all: "WWWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
This is now part of Stranger's backstory.
And also, this is a really good starting point for a short story/novel. No really. Here me out. Imagine, if you will, artificial intelligence research gets pretty strong. One branch of the research (of many) is into calculating pi. The numbers actually act as code that will SQL inject into the Artificial Intelligence. The AI gets stuffed with an initial blast of a single member of this alien race, and then once the first AI gets infected, more members of race spread to more AIs as more digits of pi are calculated.
This is far fetched, because computer systems across species are different. BUT assuming that the next universe cycle will have trillions of possible intelligent life, and that this pi decimal SQL injection thing only needs to work ONCE, they have a pretty good shot of transferring over to the next universe cycle.
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Also, no one commented on this. But I have to point it out as I laughed for three days straight after it happened:
“Spike, I’m going to start babbling what’ll most likely be random nonsense. Can you write it down?”
“I’ve been doing that for years.”
SAVAGE